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Direction of the Meme

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Guys, I miss the fluff. Where's the happy/pining/gooeyness at? I crave it so.

Who do I have to bribe to get some vanilla back in this kinkmeme?

(and I don't mean non-explicit stuff. bring on the explicitness, yes please. I just want things with happy endings. or endings, period.)

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Amen.

Am posting my own ace! prompt that no one will reply to, just for you. Because it is also vanilla.

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Secret Santa

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Just a few more days until the fics are due! How are we feeling, meme?

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
AUGH! Don't remind me, don't remind me!

...although the deadline was postponed until the 22nd, to make it easier on those who are doing Yuletide, as well.

And I actually have been working on my fic, I'm just having problems, because I'm a moron.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So I've noticed there seem to be more newbies on the meme lately, and that people are starting to get a bit fatigued by how concentrated some of the types of prompts have become in certain areas and frustrated that things have slowed down.

We were previously discussing maybe an abandoned fills challenge of some kind, but that was problematic for a bunch of reasons.

However, would anyone be interested in a challenge that incorporates the previous prompt posts MVPs? The prompts that started enormous amounts of conversation or multiple abandoned fills or mini-fills but never went anywhere?

I'm thinking that after the holidays are done and the Secret Santa wraps up, a Nostalgia Challenge might be fun and help encourage the new writers to dive into older prompt posts, but also older writers to get involved again.

It would work like this: Either I would go back (in collaboration with anyone else who wants to help) or I would accept nominations for one prompt from each post up to this point that generated the most interest and conversation but not lengty, complete fills. And then there would be eight prompts that people could choose from to work on as part of the challenge.

Then, the challenge would be for writers to do something with those prompts. We could maybe ask people to round robin them the way people are writing the slavery prompts right now and work on a set of stories as a group, or we could even do it like a Big Bang if there is at least one fan artist willing to take on each prompt to inspire potential writers. And we could open the conversation back up on those prompts by reposting them on the Challenge post.

Sort of a way to celebrate the best of this meme's past, and also have some fun collaborating with one another.

What does everyone think of that? Is there any other ways I could encourage more people to participate?

2016 Nostalgia Challenge!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
^^ I didn't title this accidentally, so feel free to title it in your replies for peoples using the flat meme view.

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Lack of Femslash?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-17 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok meme, I love ya, but sometimes a girl has needs. Needs that involve girls kissing and getting naked with other girls. I can't remember the last time I saw femslash on the meme or on ao3. Hardly any prompts, zero fills. And that kind of sucks because I generally go one fandom at a time.

So what up, fandom? Why no femslash?

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-17 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Because nobody wants to read and/or fill it?

Make a prompt, anon.

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I'm a terrible human being

(Anonymous) 2015-12-18 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if here is even the right place to talk about this. This is probably more of a Tumblr sort of conversation but anyway...

I should in no way find Matt curled up on his couch, recovering from not dying, an adorable sight to see. But I do. And there we have it.

Give the man the fluffiest blanket made of angel hair, please, for the love of god.

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Rest assured, you are not alone. I could happily watch five hours of Matt recovering on his couch, doing best-friendsy stuff with all this BFFs and lots of cuddling and mother-henning and just him being a sad cinnamon roll.

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Pardon me, I need to vent a little (non DD related)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-21 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
(We can talk about non-Daredevil stuff here right?)

I recently got into the Walking Dead after ignoring the show for 5 years. I've seen the light. It's awesome.

The fandom, however, is not. I'd go as far to say it's as bad as SuperWhoLock for delusional conspiracy theories and pairing wars (wtf?) and fans that do embarrassing shit at conventions and make the actors uncomfortable, and I'm like: whyyyyy???

WHY do people feel the need to leave hate comments on the fanfics of people who ship a different pairing? WHY are people so insistent that a character who was shot in the head and clearly died will come back? WHY, for the love of God, did someone bite Norman Reedus? And why why WHY is there no gen fic?

/rant

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-21 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
I like The Walking dead and i've watched the show since the beggining but for some reason it didnt happen like Daredevil that got me looking for fics and find this place.
I thik there are "crazy" die hard fans on every fandom, example, the "Once Upon A Time" that got crazy when they turned Emma into "dark" and the shippin wars between a femlash that will never happen. It's crazy. Some fans had attacked the writers and even some actors in conventions an i get that you love them but there is gotta be a point when you are like "dude, WTH i'm doing".
Anotehr example was the recent one regarding Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D where some fans were pretty hard on one producer for liking a post about the character that died (he deserved to die and he didnt, they brought him back as someting else) on the midseason finale.

About TWD i just know the ship about Daryl and Carol and i ship them too but i dont need the urge to see my fantasies about them fullfilled like it happens with DD.

It's crazy how fans oevrreact sometimes. If you are into fanfiction, it's all easy, you dont need to read a story about a ship you dont like, you simply ignore and move on but leave hatred and troll around, that's just childshish.
Or maybe i'm too old for that crap (sometimes i think I am; even for FF(i'm a 23 male)) and i just want to read about what i like and care

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Depressed and discouraged.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Okay. I know this is lame. But.
I've posted a few fills recently and have gotten barely any feedback. Maybe they aren't the kind of thing people are looking to read. Maybe the writing sucks. Who knows. I'm just feeling kind of like the kid who never gets picked in gym class.
Can I just say- there haven't been a lot going on here fill-wise or over at AO3 lately and maybe we could encourage the writers who are making the effort by commenting on what they write?
:) -hopeful for more daredevil fic.

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Secret Santa, woohoo!

Also, see above and feel free to provide feedback on my New Years challenge idea to get some love happening and commenting going on here.

Honestly, I think it's just a general slowdown. Things will probably pick up slightly after the holidays, but really get cooking again when S2 comes out. But I am all for encouraging people to keep writing and stay inspired (obviously!)

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Have you been on other kinkmemes? How are they the same/different from the DD kinkmeme?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Just what the title says. This is the first kinkmeme I regularly visit, so I'm curious what other kinkmemes be like.

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I've never actively participated in others, for the simple fact that most of them are what the name suggests, a KINK meme. Which means most or even all prompts are actually kinky in some form or other. Lots of explicit stuff, sex pollen, MPREG, non-con, etc. Which isn't my thing, so usually I stay away. I'm extremely happy and grateful that this one is open for everything, and I hope it stays that way forever!

Having problems with Claire's "bloody and alone"

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...please help. I want to like her, but lately I've been thinking about what she said to Matt.

Now, she's allowed to refuse a relationship for any--or no!--reason. But she does give reasons, so my problem is that her final one really doesn't hold water, as far as I can tell.

First, she claims she doesn't want to start things with him because he is too close to becoming what he hates. Fair enough. Plus, as the writers apparently figured out, she was a bit of a hot mess at the time herself, having just been tortured because people knew she knew at least a little bit about Matt. Good time not to jump into a relationship, I'd say, and the fact that what she says had a lot of validity certainly doesn't hurt.

Then, she says it's because she remembers from Sunday school that the martyrs, the saints, the saviors, all end up bloody and alone. Now that Matt's come to a firmer understanding of where he will not go, and therefore is in less danger of becoming what he hates, you're going to claim that it's his new sense of purpose that is keeping you away? Wow, it's damned if you don't, damned if you do, with her, isn't it?

I'm going to ignore the "bloody" part of her statement, since she's shown absolutely no problem with that particular part of things before (Mrs. Night Nurse, who has just finished patching Matt up and commenting on his shirtlessness), and focus on the "alone."

And the statement is great and genre-savvy of Claire to a certain extent...if she were talking about superheroes. If she were talking about superheroes, it would make sense, because their loved ones get killed off for plot-related purposes all the time, or at least since the Comics Code reign of authority ended. (Usually so the heroes will be pushed closer to the line of "becoming what they hate," obviously.) But that's not at all what she says: she says it's what she remembers from "Sunday school."

Now, my understanding is that Sunday school usually implies a Protestant background, although some Catholic churches occasionally have them (apparently, catechism classes are far more prevalent). So my question is, what kind of morbid Sunday school teacher did Claire have? And what in the world was she studying? Bible stories? Well, not really. There aren't many stories of "martyrs, saints and saviors" dying alone that I can think of, at least not that are actually told in Scripture. Samson, maybe? But he'd been alone (and blinded, ironically enough, and forced to work for his enemies) for years, because of his own sinful foolishness, before he finally managed to kill them off and die in the process. Stephen, the first Christian martyr? Stephen apparently died in the company of God. Kind of the opposite of alone. Elijah spent years on the run, but was finally given a successor to mentor and never actually died. Paul, waiting for his death in prison, wrote about a bajillion letters, many of which are now Holy Writ, in which he obviously continues relationships with friends he's had for years and is thankful for the people who continue to be there for him. I could keep going here, but I think people have gotten my point by now.

In fact, the only example I can think of that fulfills Claire's requirements is Christ Himself, one of whose lines on the cross was "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani," because He was experiencing hell on the cross in the place of those who believe in Him, and that's in large part what hell is: absolute and total separation from God. (According to this Protestant and the Westminster Shorter Catechism, at least). So, in fact, the "martyrs, saints and saviors" are never going to be as "alone" as it is possible to be, if you believe they're going to heaven.

And, Claire, honey? To a certain extent, everybody dies alone. Even if they're surrounded by a million people.

Now, I think what is really a problem for Claire is the whole "playing second fiddle to the needs of a city (or at least Hell's Kitchen)" thing, which they also do talk about. I can maybe understand that (even though she spends her free time patching up a guy because she knows he's trying to help people)? But she doesn't have to justify it by a self-fulfilling prophecy of Matt ending up "bloody and alone." No, Claire, you don't get to drop him like a ton of hot bricks and then claim that it's to help him fulfill his destiny as a "martyr, saint, savior"-type, even if you've tried to use the evidence of poorly-remembered Sunday school classes to back it up. That's being a very bad friend.

And I still wish I knew what kind of teacher(s) Claire had, and what exact material they were teaching. Or maybe I should just chuck it in the "Marvel Universe" box instead, which also holds such things as "Matt and Foggy's strange undergrad/law school" and "Doris Urich with Little Nell's Disease."

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Like, she helps because it's her job/moral code to do so, but she does so grudgingly. Which is weird, because it's her own choice to do so. No one's holding a gun to her head.

tl;dr I've liked her less the longer I've gotten to know her, lol.

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Early Christmas Gift

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
So I've seen a lot of people talking about liking gen prompts recently. And I like writing gen prompts. And it's Christmas Eve here, with me not having a completely full day.

So! Early Christmas present. Link me to your Gen prompts - any round, any character - and I will make an effort to fill as many as I can for Christmas (so in the next 24-48 hours). It'll be quick fills sorry, especially if I get a lot of links, but it will be something.

Other anons are welcome to join in the filling - I'm just one person with a lot of spare time.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays

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If you have the background for it, jobsearching while disabled?

http://daredevilkink.dreamwidth.org/6237.html?thread=12185181#cmt12185181

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How to avoid prompt hijacking/veering into other directions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Since it's something that's come up a few times before and it does bother people, it might be useful to talk about how we can avoid it while expanding on prompts. Not a set of rules per se, but more of some tips that could help avoid inadvertent prompt hijacking or leading prompts down that path. I really love the meme culture we have going on, and this is the best meme I've ever participated in, but I think a few tips would help keep everyone happy without limiting imaginations.

For example, I think it's important not to introduce completely new plot elements or AUs outside the prompt unless the OP brings it up themselves. I think we should be more willing to make new prompts whenever things seem to go down a new path, too. Personally I've also found that rereading the original prompt is useful too.

Re: How to avoid prompt hijacking/veering into other directions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yet another example about how so many things are subjective.

Because I don't mind the hijacking on my own prompts at all. I think they're fun, actually. More than that, they're useful because any increased activity on my thread bumps up the number of eyeballs looking at my prompt, especially on flatmeme. I've had threads bounce all over the place and I still ended up getting great fills on those prompts waaaay past the normal prompt shelf life because the 'hijacking' kept my thread alive.

I have, however, had other people come into my threads to tsk at other anons for supposedly derailing it. That annoyed me a little. The way I figure it, if the OP has a problem with the drift of conversation, it's up to the OP to speak up if they even want to.

Tying to police the behavior of other people on an anon meme is worse than useless, imo. If you feel aggravated that people are hijacking your prompts, then you can totally try to nudge the conversation back in your desired direction. Maybe they'll listen. More likely, I think, they'll shut up and your thread will die.

The most likely outcome of trying to institute a 'no derailing' culture will be a chilling effect on the meme as a whole. And that's not worth it.

DAREDEVIL SECRET SANTA FICS ARE LIVE!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
So I decided to play Santa and release the fics into the wild a full three hours early!

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/DD_SecretSanta_2015

They are all in the collection. Just as a reminder to the participants, if your Secret Santa was a fill for a kink meme prompt, you may want to link it on the appropriate prompt here and put it up on the Complete fills post!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE! Enjoy your gifts, and a massive, incredible thank you to the 31 other people who participated.

I'm planning a post-New Years challenge that I hope is just as well-received, and I really appreciate all of your amazing fills and crazy level of enthusiasm for this exchange. :D

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Out of curiosity, because this is my first time doing one of these: What do our replies to any comments look like? I mean, are those anonymized (or whatever the real word might be) as well?

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What to do if you didn't like your gift-fic /promt's fill / secret santa:

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Pretend. Say you love it anyway. Thank the author. Leave a kudos.

Seriously, it's not that difficult.

Re: What to do if you didn't like your gift-fic /promt's fill / secret santa:

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
+1

And letting the author know it wasn't what you expected? Rarely necessary. Unless it's in the context of "I never expected something this awesome!!!"

Bless the folks going around commenting on things that recipients haven't gotten to yet. They are good people <3

WIP nesting chaos

(Anonymous) 2015-12-28 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps a little tutorial on how to post subsequent chapters of a fic so that they do not get lost in mountains and valleys of comments would be a good idea?
There are tons of fics out there that are absolutely fabulous but so hard to follow because all you see is
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From what I've observed, a great way to keep chaotic nesting under control is to post each new chapter as a reply under the original first chapter, then each new chapter stays at the same nesting level as the previous one. <3
(And should anyone decide to post a second fill to the prompt, then at least your story will be contained under the first chapter you posted.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh. That's a good idea.

Damn it, I've already started posting though. :P Next time!

Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious, where do you see the differences between his characterization in the comics and the MCU? In your own stories, do you sometimes let them bleed into each other, or use the comics as a helping guideline when you're not sure how Matt would likely react in a given situation? Do you have a version of Matt you prefer?

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I definitely blend them together.
There are so many versions of Matt in the comics that it is easy to come up with different reactions all the time. For example, Waid's Murdock is so different than Miller's Murdock.
I think the root of his personality remains mostly the same though. He has a temper. He has depressive/manic episodes. He needs Foggy to keep him grounded. No relationship ever ends well. He is self sacrificing. And he loves being Daredevil. (and sometimes he is a complete ass, lol)

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World On Fire

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
So- what is the world on fire? Sonar? Echolocation? A mix of everything he senses blended together into a picture that forms in the adapted portion of his vision cortex?

In the comics I have seen his 'sight' drawn as wobbly red lines to a really annoying crayon like blobby thing that he says his senses have evolved to minic actual sight but not as clear. So what the hell?

Foggy was right. "are you even blind!"

What is his thing now in the comics? Does anyone know?

What is your head canon explanation to describe his vision in your fanfics?

Re: World On Fire

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
In comics, idk even, but as far as I write it in fanfic, his 'world on fire' thing was a really bad metaphor--basically, he perceives where objects are in a room, roughly what shape they are (eg he might confuse a tablet with a cover and a slim book), can hear electronics/even small noises, can tell where his body is in relation to other things, has a very strong sense of smell/taste/touch, etc. Like a lot of information that he gets is through the 'radar' sense, which as far as I can tell is a combination of insanely wide-range propriocetpion and echolocation. He's definitely still no-light-perception blind, though. There's lots he doesn't pick up on (subtler facial expressions, most facial expressions unless he's focusing a LOT on the person, colors of things, patterns/print, most printed words, pictures etc on a computer, lights, and so on).

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EW Season 2 photos! (spoilers)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Has anyone seen them? :D I'm talking about the new photos of the Punisher, Elektra and Karen.

I loooove the photo with Karen in it.

Re: EW Season 2 photos! (spoilers)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhhh, that Matt/Karen picture. I can't help it, I just don't ship them. And I'm kind of side-eyeing the scenario, too.

It looks like Karen's trying to teach Matt how to play pool, and yeah, girl is probably enjoying it, but like. There is NO WAY that Matt Murdock, Stick's protégé, doesn't know how to play pool like a shark. So it feels a bit weird? Like Matt's pulling one over on Karen. I don't know, maybe the way they handle it will make me feel less weird about it.

(I think it's the deception leading to full body contact thing that bothers me. It's something I don't have problems with in fic, because that's fantasy that we control, but when it's portrayed in canon? Ehhhhhh. It makes me uncomfortable. Then again, it might just be me not liking that pairing. I'll own my biases.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I regret posting my fics to namespace so much.

I contemplate deleting my Tumblr and anonymizing my unfinished fics and running away from fandom.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I did this for the last few fandoms I was in. Ehh, it was... idk, not particularly rewarding or helpful in any way. Didn't make me feel any better. :/

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Matt Murderdock on AO3

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Urgh, can anyone help me out with finding the tag for this creepy little asshole? (I say that in the most affectionate way possible.) I tried looking for the tag on AO3 but it either doesn't exist or everything's mixed in with the normal Matt Murdock tag. :'(

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Yeah nobody tags him as Murderdock.

The trick is to search Matt Murdock but refine the fandom to include Spider-Gwen. That should bring up the Murderdock stuff.

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Thank You Anon(s)!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
To the person (mostly likely, but it could persons) who posted all those lovely Foggy prompts - him having grown up in witness protection, or as a kidnapped child, etc. - you are my hero and I love you. It's nice to know I'm not the only who just wants a million headcanons of different Foggy backstories.

Just wanted to let you know you're appreciated aside from seconding the prompts! :D

Secret Santa Author Reveal?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
I thought we were supposed to get to see the fics un-anon'd tonight....?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
It just turned midnight here, lol. I am working on it right now! :D

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Daredevil Comcs Recaps

(Anonymous) 2016-01-02 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
New blog for comics screencaps/recaps with a special focus on comics that are difficult or impossible to find. Also storylines/panels that are just plain weird and other comic analyses things are featured.

Currently the Rosalind storyline from the comics is being recapped. Relevant because she has such a strong fanon presence. http://daredevilrecaps.tumblr.com/post/136476340947/daredevil-353

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Thank you!!!

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daredevil dreams??

(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
i had a dream last night that season two had dropped way early and in one of the scenes the ghost of mrs cardenas was sitting down w/ karen and she was all like "you have powers, don't you?" and karen got all shifty but eventually said "ever since the meteors hit hell's kitchen i've been able to smell diamonds in the floor. it gets so overwhelming that i have to excuse myself." and that's where it ends...... apparently dream-me has some weird expectations for the new season.

anyone else had any notably interesting dreams about daredevil??

Hey, when does the repost challenge start?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-05 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I have a few *great* prompts from the last rounds and would love to unleash them^^

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It already has--the link's on the new post

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Comicssss

(Anonymous) 2016-01-05 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
We haven't had a DD comic discussion thread for a while, have we?

I've just finished reading a whole heap of them (most of Bendis' run, the jail arc, all of Vol 3 & 4, DD's appearances in She-Hulk and Superior Iron Man, and what Soule's written so far), and I want to squee. Someone come talk to meee.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-05 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved his appearance in she hulk! (Though there s only one, right? The trial wih cap?) I d love to see those two get out more^^

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