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Sorry it's late and I cannot squeal to anyone. But I just saw it and oh my god. That is my reaction oh my god and the feeling of excitement.
I want to see it NOW.
Like the last part with the fighting and the flying of Falcon was awesome. And oh my god I don't want to spoil it but oh my god that looks so much better than I ever imagined!
OH MY GOD. I'm sorry i'm in my mid twenties but I haven't felt this excited for a movie in ages. And I have to wait half a year to see it.... :(
I want to see it NOW.
Like the last part with the fighting and the flying of Falcon was awesome. And oh my god I don't want to spoil it but oh my god that looks so much better than I ever imagined!
OH MY GOD. I'm sorry i'm in my mid twenties but I haven't felt this excited for a movie in ages. And I have to wait half a year to see it.... :(
If you want to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43NWzay3W4s
If I wanted a character to recognize Matt's fighting style as having the earmarks of whatever style is linked to the organization Stick was a part of, what organization would that be? Also, is there a head of that organization that the character would be able to refer to (ie "This is one of so-and-so's..." etc).
Fisk says to Matt that if he kills Vladimir, "we'll call the night a push."
I've never heard this phrase before. What does it mean?
I've never heard this phrase before. What does it mean?
From GeneL at https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130506115044AATQ2gF:
"a 'push' means a tie and usually means to have another contest (or in Poker for example, play another hand) to determine a clear, uncontested winner."
"a 'push' means a tie and usually means to have another contest (or in Poker for example, play another hand) to determine a clear, uncontested winner."
I am secretly upset the Punisher will not have a beard in the show
(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)The best part about that Omega Effect series was imagining Frank with Big Boss's voice from Metal Gear.
Re: I am secretly upset the Punisher will not have a beard in the show
(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)I also was very smitten with Frank's bearded/eyepatch look. There's always hope for season 3 I guess?
Re: I am secretly upset the Punisher will not have a beard in the show
(Anonymous) - 2015-11-30 20:39 (UTC) - ExpandRe: I am secretly upset the Punisher will not have a beard in the show
(Anonymous) - 2015-11-30 20:55 (UTC) - ExpandI know the wardrobe department spent a lot of money outfitting everyone on the show, but in-universe what kind of suits do you think Matt would own?
Specifically, I'm writing a fic where he puts on the nicest suit he owns; something be bought for his internship at L&Z that he only wears for court or important occasions. So something more expensive than what he normally wears. But I don't know what that'd be.
Thoughts? Opinions?
Specifically, I'm writing a fic where he puts on the nicest suit he owns; something be bought for his internship at L&Z that he only wears for court or important occasions. So something more expensive than what he normally wears. But I don't know what that'd be.
Thoughts? Opinions?
"The nicest suit he owns" is enough. Details about it being x material in y cut from z brand can add to a story, but they aren't necessary. (And obviously-parroting-Wikipedia detracts from the story)
Not that I'm objecting but where the hell are all the Foggy/Kilgrave posts coming from? Is there something from the comics I'm not aware of?
Like don't get me wrong, I'm down to read it and I'm keeping an eye on the prompts, but like ... where did that come from?
Like don't get me wrong, I'm down to read it and I'm keeping an eye on the prompts, but like ... where did that come from?
i am REALLY hoping that season 2 of daredevil will prove to us that matt owns clothing other than suits or house clothes. i mean, matt isn't constantly doing lawyerly duties in the daytime and foggy's already passed the civvies test when he visited matt in the gym wearing a wool sweater and a jacket (aka NOT business clothing). if s2 doesn't have matt in some slightly more casual clothes for going out i am going to have an aneurysm because i am SURE matt doesn't enjoy wearing suits all the time when he's out.
idk though, what do you guys think? have you noticed the same thing?
idk though, what do you guys think? have you noticed the same thing?
my fave thing of all time is seeing characters in opposite states of dress so i absolutely need to see matt in his casual, errand-running clothes. please @god give me this one thing i'm a pretty good person
Does anyone remember where to find that fic on the kinkmeme where Matt and the Avengers find out Foggy used to date Victor von Doom? I can't seem to find it :/
It should be on one of the most recent pages of the WIP post, anon.
Something about Foggy used to date a guy that was bad for him...
Something about Foggy used to date a guy that was bad for him...
I'm just curious as to how many of us there are on here. If you see this and you ship Matt and Frank, add a +1 in the comments! Also say why you like it if you want. ;)
WELL as soon as I started poking around in comics, I fell for Frank super hard, it's embarrassing how much he's my type of character
really what I ship is Frank/Occasional Happiness, and Matt seems 1) a pretty likely candidate to understand and put up with his issues even if he doesn't agree, and 2) definitely the candidate most likely to get anything written for, and 3) yeah it's hot
I don't really OTP it, though, I am a multishipper forever
really what I ship is Frank/Occasional Happiness, and Matt seems 1) a pretty likely candidate to understand and put up with his issues even if he doesn't agree, and 2) definitely the candidate most likely to get anything written for, and 3) yeah it's hot
I don't really OTP it, though, I am a multishipper forever
IT'S REALLY GOOD I'M SCREAMIN
I dunno man I found some parts of it a little too much for me? I liked Matt's interaction with his new sidekick! "boss-man", ha, I'm working Blindspot into my fic next time, I like him. not so sure on the apparent friend break-up between Foggy and Matt and the fact that something apparently happened that Matt's secret identity reveal got reset and Matt had a hand in it. which is just. I don't know if I can buy that.
I'm upset I don't see Kirsten anywhere. like, where's my girl? why's Matt's support network suddenly just gone or mad at him? I do not like this. I demand fix-its.
I'm upset I don't see Kirsten anywhere. like, where's my girl? why's Matt's support network suddenly just gone or mad at him? I do not like this. I demand fix-its.
Trying to write a short thousand-word thing after writing a long, multi-chaptered thing feels like writing an outline, tbh.
I could swear that somewhere back there, probably in Round 4 or 5 or so, there was a prompt for a de-aged Matt that the Avengers were training as a superhero-to-be, and he eventually disappears and is finally discovered, perfectly safe and very happy, with Foggy, who, of course, sees Matt Murdock as being worth more than (just) Daredevil. (Presumably the Avengers had played catch with an idiot ball, or something, to be going in a child-warrior-training direction in the first place.) I even contributed a post about how Bruce might have sneaked him out.
Honestly, my brain has been coming up with cracky Bruce & child Matt stories for months based on the sudden feels I got considering how Bruce would feel about a post-Stick Matt, skipping the deaging and just doing timeline adjusting instead. (I've even written a few paragraphs, even though I have trouble writing crack. And trust me, some of what my brain has spewed out is very much crack.)
...and now I can't find that original prompt. witchry9's story today-- http://archiveofourown.org/works/5345615 , in case you haven't read it, it's great and features Avengers with a de-aged Matt! --reminded me of it, and I went back to look at it again, and I CAN'T FIND IT.
Can anyone help?
Honestly, my brain has been coming up with cracky Bruce & child Matt stories for months based on the sudden feels I got considering how Bruce would feel about a post-Stick Matt, skipping the deaging and just doing timeline adjusting instead. (I've even written a few paragraphs, even though I have trouble writing crack. And trust me, some of what my brain has spewed out is very much crack.)
...and now I can't find that original prompt. witchry9's story today-- http://archiveofourown.org/works/5345615 , in case you haven't read it, it's great and features Avengers with a de-aged Matt! --reminded me of it, and I went back to look at it again, and I CAN'T FIND IT.
Can anyone help?
Here you go ; http://daredevilkink.dreamwidth.org/3230.html?thread=7238814#cmt7238814
What yo guys think.
I kinda like the twist of the memory thing (tho i think it's been used a lot)
And it had a cliffi already. Is the kid working for the bad guy or he is just playing him? or he doesbnt know about Matt ebing DD and he will go to take down Matt not knowing everything.
Also Foggy is mad at Matt. I didnt see that one coming but for sute it ahd to with the memory thing, I hope it will be explored more in the next issues.
And i like that they look older both are showing they're age.
I kinda like the twist of the memory thing (tho i think it's been used a lot)
And it had a cliffi already. Is the kid working for the bad guy or he is just playing him? or he doesbnt know about Matt ebing DD and he will go to take down Matt not knowing everything.
Also Foggy is mad at Matt. I didnt see that one coming but for sute it ahd to with the memory thing, I hope it will be explored more in the next issues.
And i like that they look older both are showing they're age.
does Foggy ever actually call Matt "Matty" in the show or is that a collective fandom hallucination. I see it all the time but I don't remember it ever actually happening.
It doesn't happen in the show, but it does in the comics.
Not sure why fanfic writers making something up is a "hallucination" though... I thought making things up about existing characters is pretty much the point of fanfic.
Not sure why fanfic writers making something up is a "hallucination" though... I thought making things up about existing characters is pretty much the point of fanfic.
I was thinking earlier today about how I came to be aware of my kinks. Mostly ended up recalling episodes of cartoons, Carry On films, and one particularly cruel instalment of The Numskulls where the Numskulls had a fight in Edd's arm and a doctor ended up giving him an injection in the bum, but it was an interesting thought journey. (I kept that copy of the Numskulls for YEARS, and when my parent threw it out because it was scruffy I had what might well have been the only tantrum of my very laid-back childhood.)
So my question is, meme, how did you learn about your kinks?
So my question is, meme, how did you learn about your kinks?
I used to think that I was just very concerned for Wesley's health in that scene in The Princess Bride where he's like strapped down and tortured? But I'm pretty sure I was just, like, Developing Thoughts. Bondage-y thoughts. At a questionably young age.
So a prompt discussion that turned into a discussion about Hells Kitchen vs. Queens vs. other locations in New York City inspired me to go hunting for some good Marvel resources.
Here's a podcast featuring the Bowery Boys (who also have a great podcast where they talk about Hamilton/Burr in NYC) where they talk about Marvel Comics relationship in general with NYC.
http://marvel.com/files/podcasts/mcom_this_week_marvel_164mini.mp3
Here's an interesting infographic that lists all of the fake businesses and corporations that exist within the Marvel comics universe, if you're looking for a company to reference:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/marvel-comics-gets-down-to-business-in-infographic-map/
Also, I sort of made this as a reference for myself:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zlEeen4JZNa0.k-IkxiZ-2bkc&usp=sharing
It's a Google map that outlines various MCU landmarks in NYC - Hell's Kitchen is there, as are a few sites from Jessica Jones, Clint Barton's comic-book Bed Stuy apartment, Stark Tower and Spider-Man's entire borough just to give a sense of scale.
Here's a podcast featuring the Bowery Boys (who also have a great podcast where they talk about Hamilton/Burr in NYC) where they talk about Marvel Comics relationship in general with NYC.
http://marvel.com/files/podcasts/mcom_this_week_marvel_164mini.mp3
Here's an interesting infographic that lists all of the fake businesses and corporations that exist within the Marvel comics universe, if you're looking for a company to reference:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/marvel-comics-gets-down-to-business-in-infographic-map/
Also, I sort of made this as a reference for myself:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zlEeen4JZNa0.k-IkxiZ-2bkc&usp=sharing
It's a Google map that outlines various MCU landmarks in NYC - Hell's Kitchen is there, as are a few sites from Jessica Jones, Clint Barton's comic-book Bed Stuy apartment, Stark Tower and Spider-Man's entire borough just to give a sense of scale.
Your favourite fic things, and things that you don't get
(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)By which I mean, what is/are your favourite fic clichés, tropes, linguistic quirks, and so on, and what is/are fic cluches, tropes, and linguistic quirks that you don't really get? Please try to keep it light on that last one. Of course, if this is too wanky, please delete it, Mod, and I'll start one just for things we like.
I'll start off. One of my favourite fic things is outsider POV, because it provides a kind of meta-viewer where we have a pure audience surrogate and there's lots of room for narrative gaps which are just the best. I've always struggled with abstract AUs like caveman AU or like, an AU where all the characters are shoes or something, because I feel like it's much harder to get voices right in those contexts and I find them a bit difficult to follow as a result.
(Bonus, uncategorised because I love it but probably for the wrong reasons: I can't help but laugh every time I read 'his breath came out in pants' because I always just imagine little clouds of air in slacks or pinstripes and I think 'hey, at least something has some clothes on'. It's so cute and it always makes me smile.)
I'll start off. One of my favourite fic things is outsider POV, because it provides a kind of meta-viewer where we have a pure audience surrogate and there's lots of room for narrative gaps which are just the best. I've always struggled with abstract AUs like caveman AU or like, an AU where all the characters are shoes or something, because I feel like it's much harder to get voices right in those contexts and I find them a bit difficult to follow as a result.
(Bonus, uncategorised because I love it but probably for the wrong reasons: I can't help but laugh every time I read 'his breath came out in pants' because I always just imagine little clouds of air in slacks or pinstripes and I think 'hey, at least something has some clothes on'. It's so cute and it always makes me smile.)
what's the best way to deal with your prompts getting taken in ways you don't like but technically aren't derailing?
it feels like every time there's any response to one of my prompts, it manages to go in directions that I didn't rule out because it didn't even occur to me anyone would want that, that's the opposite of the point!!!
maybe I'm just out of step with the meme's culture or unnaturally picky and should just write more of my own stuff, but it's really frustrating. I don't want to swoop in as the fun-forbidding OP or shit on other people's prefs because YKINMKATO and all that, people are getting inspired and having fun and that's great, and it's not actually unrelated enough to my prompt to ask for reposting, but I also wish I could clarify what I want/like without feeling like a mean party pooper. Plus I feel a bit awkward just abandoning my own prompts once they start squicking me out, because I know a lot of people want reassurance/feedback from OPs, and I don't want to lie and contribute to stuff I dislike any more than I want to be insulting/discouraging.
does this happen to other people? how do you feel like is the best way to deal with it?
it feels like every time there's any response to one of my prompts, it manages to go in directions that I didn't rule out because it didn't even occur to me anyone would want that, that's the opposite of the point!!!
maybe I'm just out of step with the meme's culture or unnaturally picky and should just write more of my own stuff, but it's really frustrating. I don't want to swoop in as the fun-forbidding OP or shit on other people's prefs because YKINMKATO and all that, people are getting inspired and having fun and that's great, and it's not actually unrelated enough to my prompt to ask for reposting, but I also wish I could clarify what I want/like without feeling like a mean party pooper. Plus I feel a bit awkward just abandoning my own prompts once they start squicking me out, because I know a lot of people want reassurance/feedback from OPs, and I don't want to lie and contribute to stuff I dislike any more than I want to be insulting/discouraging.
does this happen to other people? how do you feel like is the best way to deal with it?
You know, I actually haven't left a prompt of my own yet, but I've seen this and as a filler it sometimes makes me feel a little weird. Like, when it comes down to it I'll only pay attention to what the OP said as far as my jumping off point, but I do sometimes feel like, "man, a bunch of people probably wish someone else who would've done X and Y had taken this on."
For those of you who would like to post your work to Ao3, but don't want certain material associated with your account (and who don't want to put your work in the anonymousdaredevils account).
http://archiveofourown.org/collections/anonymous/profile
Any work posted to this collection will have the author name show up as Anonymous. There is no link back to your profile from the work. Basically, you can post the work from your own account, but the work gets listed as being by Anonymous. You just choose "Anonymous (anonymous)" when you pick which collection to post to, the same way you'd choose the Daredevil Kink Meme collection, and it anonymizes your work.
http://archiveofourown.org/collections/anonymous/profile
Any work posted to this collection will have the author name show up as Anonymous. There is no link back to your profile from the work. Basically, you can post the work from your own account, but the work gets listed as being by Anonymous. You just choose "Anonymous (anonymous)" when you pick which collection to post to, the same way you'd choose the Daredevil Kink Meme collection, and it anonymizes your work.
From the profile:
Just for fun, this collection is not a substitute for orphaning your work. People looking at your profile will be able to see that you have a work or works in the "Anonymous" collection, and they will be able to deduce the fandom from your list of fandoms.
But if enough of us do this, they'll have a much harder time telling *which entry* is ours, right? And since I have a feeling that these will be the ones we're more ashamed of, that's all to the good.
(I may even post my horrible "zombies" fic from the Halloween post this way. And trust me, I'm definitely ashamed of it.)
Just for fun, this collection is not a substitute for orphaning your work. People looking at your profile will be able to see that you have a work or works in the "Anonymous" collection, and they will be able to deduce the fandom from your list of fandoms.
But if enough of us do this, they'll have a much harder time telling *which entry* is ours, right? And since I have a feeling that these will be the ones we're more ashamed of, that's all to the good.
(I may even post my horrible "zombies" fic from the Halloween post this way. And trust me, I'm definitely ashamed of it.)
What's the one thing that tips you off to the fact that an author has either never had sex, or never had sex where a penis was involved?
Well there are certain things that mark a lack of knowledge of gay sex for sure - lack of lube or use of something as lube that is NOT advised irl are a biggie there. Like even someone who's never had anal sex or penetrative sex should generally be able to figure that one out, but whatever.
I personally am not super sexually active to have the breadth of experience to know for sure, but I reaaaally wonder sometimes about described sexual positions that seem particularly bendy or impossible. And amounts of cum that are possible or how quickly a guy can get it back up. Just based on conversations with other people about sex and talking to guy friends, I suspect many fic writers are pretty okay with being nonrealistic about those things.
I personally am not super sexually active to have the breadth of experience to know for sure, but I reaaaally wonder sometimes about described sexual positions that seem particularly bendy or impossible. And amounts of cum that are possible or how quickly a guy can get it back up. Just based on conversations with other people about sex and talking to guy friends, I suspect many fic writers are pretty okay with being nonrealistic about those things.
I love you, discussion/off-topic post, but I need to step out a little. Can anyone recommend a quality Daredevil giffer or two on tumblr? Meta posts would be great, too, but I really want some lovely gifsets built around themes, or comparison contrast, or something. I'll even take, "ooh, look at the pretty." I just need PICTURES. Because, unlike Matt Murdock, I am not blind, and I want to feast my eyes on the art that fellow fans have made. I promise I'll think it's better than the modern... pieces... Vanessa Marianna sells at her gallery!
I only just came across this blog so I haven't had a good look but it definitely could be what you're after in the realm of having some gifsets with themes: http://darkness-on-the-edge-of-murdock.tumblr.com/
Ohhh look at the pretty blogs: http://fyeahmattmurdock.tumblr.com/ (what is says- Matt appreciation everywhere)
http://senor-foggy-law.tumblr.com/ and http://ihaventthefoggyest.tumblr.com/ cause Foggy is my sunshine child (latter hasn't updated in ages but still lots of good posts to scroll through)
http://netflixdefenders.tumblr.com/ which as the name implies is all defenders so mostly JJ right now but tagging's good so you can filter to just DD or characters etc
Also http://catwithoutfear.tumblr.com/ is a fanart blog not GIFs but it's so adorable
Ohhh look at the pretty blogs: http://fyeahmattmurdock.tumblr.com/ (what is says- Matt appreciation everywhere)
http://senor-foggy-law.tumblr.com/ and http://ihaventthefoggyest.tumblr.com/ cause Foggy is my sunshine child (latter hasn't updated in ages but still lots of good posts to scroll through)
http://netflixdefenders.tumblr.com/ which as the name implies is all defenders so mostly JJ right now but tagging's good so you can filter to just DD or characters etc
Also http://catwithoutfear.tumblr.com/ is a fanart blog not GIFs but it's so adorable
They keep the sign even when they have to move offices.
Years later, the "NELSON" stands out, shiny from all the times Matt has traced his fingers over it. It becomes a ritual for him. When he's about to open the door, if he has the seconds to spare he'll take the time to feel the bumps before fishing out his keys. Every time he remembers how close they had come to losing it, and reminds himself: Nelson is still there, as firm and real and solid as the name on the sign.
Foggy has his own ritual. When he's upset with Matt or worried about him or just needs a pick-me-up in general, he'll go out, get a little something to eat or drink, and then stand across the street or parking lot, where he can get a good view of that sign, and admire it again. It still looks good. And the shininess of his own name reminds him, every time, how much Matt really does care about him, and how that affection leaves mute evidence that Matt might not even realize exists.
And then he'll cross the street and carefully run his fingers across every letter of MURDOCK. It doesn't seem fair that he gets all the light; he's always wanted to share all of that that he could with Matt, not throw him more into the shade. Sometimes he wonders if he's subconsciously trying to show someone (often Matt himself) how bright and beautiful Matt really is. Sometimes he wonders if he's reminding everyone that Murdock is just as real and important as his costumed alter-ego.
Over the years, the "&" becomes duller and duller in comparison to the names it's sandwiched between. That's okay; the sentiment behind it is stronger than ever.
...This is my head-canon I WILL FIGHT YOU FOR IT.
Years later, the "NELSON" stands out, shiny from all the times Matt has traced his fingers over it. It becomes a ritual for him. When he's about to open the door, if he has the seconds to spare he'll take the time to feel the bumps before fishing out his keys. Every time he remembers how close they had come to losing it, and reminds himself: Nelson is still there, as firm and real and solid as the name on the sign.
Foggy has his own ritual. When he's upset with Matt or worried about him or just needs a pick-me-up in general, he'll go out, get a little something to eat or drink, and then stand across the street or parking lot, where he can get a good view of that sign, and admire it again. It still looks good. And the shininess of his own name reminds him, every time, how much Matt really does care about him, and how that affection leaves mute evidence that Matt might not even realize exists.
And then he'll cross the street and carefully run his fingers across every letter of MURDOCK. It doesn't seem fair that he gets all the light; he's always wanted to share all of that that he could with Matt, not throw him more into the shade. Sometimes he wonders if he's subconsciously trying to show someone (often Matt himself) how bright and beautiful Matt really is. Sometimes he wonders if he's reminding everyone that Murdock is just as real and important as his costumed alter-ego.
Over the years, the "&" becomes duller and duller in comparison to the names it's sandwiched between. That's okay; the sentiment behind it is stronger than ever.
...This is my head-canon I WILL FIGHT YOU FOR IT.
...and it's actually an "AND" can't believe I didn't double-check that sorry
I don't usually go all crazy about t-shirts. But I saw this one over on teespring, and it was so very tempting: https://teespring.com/josie-s-of-hell-s-kitchen
And then I saw that the campaign expired in July without hitting its minimum. That makes me all depressed. Do you know how many non-black or white women's geeky t-shirts there are? Not nearly enough for those of us who look dead in those colors, is what I'm saying. I think I've got a brown Serenity t-shirt, and that's it. And here was one in a pretty red, and actually pretty subtle for a fannish t-shirt, and, and...
[Insert reaction gif of Matt's face falling during his argument with Foggy here.]
And then I saw that the campaign expired in July without hitting its minimum. That makes me all depressed. Do you know how many non-black or white women's geeky t-shirts there are? Not nearly enough for those of us who look dead in those colors, is what I'm saying. I think I've got a brown Serenity t-shirt, and that's it. And here was one in a pretty red, and actually pretty subtle for a fannish t-shirt, and, and...
[Insert reaction gif of Matt's face falling during his argument with Foggy here.]
Same design, not cheap: http://www.redbubble.com/people/twirls/works/15936613-josies-of-hells-kitchen?p=t-shirt&style=vneck&body_color=red&print_location=front
Wow, I'm slow: Fridge logic (or fridge horror) from watching Daredevil
(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 07:43 am (UTC)(link)Please, feel free to add anything that took you a while to figure out to this list. What things only clicked later for you, whether because the show was clever or because you were just kind of stupid? (I don't think anyone has started a post like this on here yet, but please let me know if I'm wrong...) I have a couple to share:
1. Foggy's facepalming when Matt uses his "like listening to your voice" line on Karen looks like he's upset about Matt hitting on the girl he's interested in, again, when we see it in Episode 5 ("World on Fire"). We the audience know it's a line because he used a very similar one on Claire in Episode 4 ("In the Blood").
But in Episode 10 ("Nelson v. Murdock"), we learn that Foggy has asked Matt what he wants in a girl and is told, "I guess just someone I really like listening to." And Foggy doesn't know that Matt used a similar line on Claire. In retrospect, that facepalm looks more like, "Oh, Matt's actually interested in the girl I'm interested in!" (Whether that is also an "again" situation, who knows?)
To carry on from this, I maintain that Foggy's side of the weirdness in his "date" with Karen at the end of Episode 5 (the same one where Matt hit on her) is that he's half interested in her, half vetting her for Matt. He complains about Matt's weakness for beautiful, moral-less women throughout the first half of the season even more than he bemoans his own lack of relationships. I think he'd rather see Matt settled down with someone who isn't crazy than get a cute girl for himself at this point, because he isn't attracted to the same kind of toxic that Matt is. (Although he questions that after talking with Marci, hah.) And that still doesn't explain exactly what Karen thinks she's doing during their date.
2. Speaking of Marci in Episode 5, I finally feel kind of sorry for her. It's taken me this long (months!) to figure out: they set us up by talking about the sharks at Landman & Zack, and Matt warns about splashing too much, that it will attract them, and... Marci ends up throwing a bunch of stuff at Foggy's strengths (him "crashing and burning" at L&Z; "commitment issues" for a man who has set up a practice in his hometown with his law school roommate), while Foggy immediately jumps on the very real weaknesses to Marci's case. Which one's the shark here, and which the flailing swimmer? And which is the really stupid viewer? (Oooh, me, me!)
However much people (including me) like fuzzy, warm-hearted, awkward Foggy Nelson, we have to remember: this is a man who could have made it at Landman & Zack, as we learn in Episode 10. And Marci came in after him and Matt, while presumably graduating the same year; she's second choice. Those accusations she was throwing at Foggy? Start to look an awful lot like her own vulnerabilities. Blood in the water, you might even say.
1. Foggy's facepalming when Matt uses his "like listening to your voice" line on Karen looks like he's upset about Matt hitting on the girl he's interested in, again, when we see it in Episode 5 ("World on Fire"). We the audience know it's a line because he used a very similar one on Claire in Episode 4 ("In the Blood").
But in Episode 10 ("Nelson v. Murdock"), we learn that Foggy has asked Matt what he wants in a girl and is told, "I guess just someone I really like listening to." And Foggy doesn't know that Matt used a similar line on Claire. In retrospect, that facepalm looks more like, "Oh, Matt's actually interested in the girl I'm interested in!" (Whether that is also an "again" situation, who knows?)
To carry on from this, I maintain that Foggy's side of the weirdness in his "date" with Karen at the end of Episode 5 (the same one where Matt hit on her) is that he's half interested in her, half vetting her for Matt. He complains about Matt's weakness for beautiful, moral-less women throughout the first half of the season even more than he bemoans his own lack of relationships. I think he'd rather see Matt settled down with someone who isn't crazy than get a cute girl for himself at this point, because he isn't attracted to the same kind of toxic that Matt is. (Although he questions that after talking with Marci, hah.) And that still doesn't explain exactly what Karen thinks she's doing during their date.
2. Speaking of Marci in Episode 5, I finally feel kind of sorry for her. It's taken me this long (months!) to figure out: they set us up by talking about the sharks at Landman & Zack, and Matt warns about splashing too much, that it will attract them, and... Marci ends up throwing a bunch of stuff at Foggy's strengths (him "crashing and burning" at L&Z; "commitment issues" for a man who has set up a practice in his hometown with his law school roommate), while Foggy immediately jumps on the very real weaknesses to Marci's case. Which one's the shark here, and which the flailing swimmer? And which is the really stupid viewer? (Oooh, me, me!)
However much people (including me) like fuzzy, warm-hearted, awkward Foggy Nelson, we have to remember: this is a man who could have made it at Landman & Zack, as we learn in Episode 10. And Marci came in after him and Matt, while presumably graduating the same year; she's second choice. Those accusations she was throwing at Foggy? Start to look an awful lot like her own vulnerabilities. Blood in the water, you might even say.
Re: Wow, I'm slow: Fridge logic (or fridge horror) from watching Daredevil
(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 08:29 am (UTC)(link)Oh man those are good things that never clicked for me either! Nice work!
I think my oh man I'm an idiot moment was rewatching the last episode "Daredevil" and listening to Fisk retell the story of the Good Samaritan. And I noticed as he got to the bit about the actual Good Samaritan that it flashes to Nelson and Murdock showing first the Good Samaritan (Matt); who helped the Traveler (Karen) despite what it may cost him (Foggy). And I went OH.
I think my oh man I'm an idiot moment was rewatching the last episode "Daredevil" and listening to Fisk retell the story of the Good Samaritan. And I noticed as he got to the bit about the actual Good Samaritan that it flashes to Nelson and Murdock showing first the Good Samaritan (Matt); who helped the Traveler (Karen) despite what it may cost him (Foggy). And I went OH.
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(Anonymous) - 2015-12-14 23:38 (UTC) - ExpandI know there's some, I just wish there was more. Being able to write would help too!
Oh well.
Oh well.
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