what's the best way to deal with your prompts getting taken in ways you don't like but technically aren't derailing?
it feels like every time there's any response to one of my prompts, it manages to go in directions that I didn't rule out because it didn't even occur to me anyone would want that, that's the opposite of the point!!!
maybe I'm just out of step with the meme's culture or unnaturally picky and should just write more of my own stuff, but it's really frustrating. I don't want to swoop in as the fun-forbidding OP or shit on other people's prefs because YKINMKATO and all that, people are getting inspired and having fun and that's great, and it's not actually unrelated enough to my prompt to ask for reposting, but I also wish I could clarify what I want/like without feeling like a mean party pooper. Plus I feel a bit awkward just abandoning my own prompts once they start squicking me out, because I know a lot of people want reassurance/feedback from OPs, and I don't want to lie and contribute to stuff I dislike any more than I want to be insulting/discouraging.
does this happen to other people? how do you feel like is the best way to deal with it?
You know, I actually haven't left a prompt of my own yet, but I've seen this and as a filler it sometimes makes me feel a little weird. Like, when it comes down to it I'll only pay attention to what the OP said as far as my jumping off point, but I do sometimes feel like, "man, a bunch of people probably wish someone else who would've done X and Y had taken this on."
When that happens to me I usually just try to lead the conversation back in my direction by making a new comment off the last part I did like (usually pretending to be a new anon). Just ask questions. maybe by commenting directly to the prompt, that are more towards what you want. It works about 50% of the time lol.
Or just comment directly on the stuff you don't like and try to nicely say 'I think it would be more interesting if this happened instead of that' still not outting yourself as OP if you don't want to. I've never had one of my prompts go far off track and then get filled, it's always just talking. If that happens tho I agree with the other anon that said find SOMETHING to compliment, and then make a more specific prompt. Say you liked the other one but you wanted something a bit different.. And add the thing that you wanted and the things about the other one that you do NOT want. Because that one was good but you just want something different, see?
Re: your prompts getting taken in ways you don't like
Sorry, I've never actually had this happen to me. Probably because I've only ever had one prompt partially filled.
But as an author: Give minimal feedback? I *have* had this happen to me. I got a "I'm so excited that you filled my prompt! I'll be back to review later!" that never had a follow-through. Yeah, that's definitely damning with faint praise from the OP. Message received. (The other commenters who loved my stuff sure cushioned that blow, though.)
You can be a little less blunt than that OP about it, though. Surely there's *something* you liked about the fill. A detail about Fisk's view of the world that the author included? A cute reference to the larger Marvel universe? Some good meta for the show that you haven't seen in other fics? Honestly, it's probably a lot like a parent admiring a kid's artwork of crayon scribblings sometimes, and I think I've probably gotten that kind of review from OPs too, but they were tactful enough about it that I didn't realize it. (Well, except maybe for the one that was more of a derailment, and I did label that as a not-fill and keep it out of the Completed post. That OP had absolutely no obligation to me, is what I'm saying.)
And YKINMKATO applies to the OP, too, so feel free to drop out and explain why, if you're getting a 50-part fill. Just say, "I really like this and this, but, you know, the character of Wesley just squicks me out so I can't read any more of this." I don't think I've ever seen a multi-part fill that didn't have multiple people commenting, anyhow, so everybody else will hopefully have fun continuing without you.
(And you'll hopefully get more and better advice from other people. It's not like I'm a long-established kinkmeme Miss Manners, here. I hate how my posts always look like pronouncements from on high, and I can't figure out how to change that.)
First off, clariry in the prompt is important. If you only want specific pairings or want to say "Ok with this, bit not that", that's totally fair. But I understand that you can't always predict people's ideas and tangents.
I also think there's absolutely nothing wrong with coming on and clearly stating you're the OP and how you feel. Because I do think most people are attentive to that and will either start a new prompt or try and take it in a different direction. I personally have said, at some point on this meme, variations on the following:
"OP here. That's not really my ship bit if you want to fill it that way, I know other people will enjoy it".
"OP here saying that I prefer X over Y personally, but it's really ultimately uo to you."
"OP saying for what it's worth, I was actually thinking..."
You can't really tell a filler what to do - most write to please the OP but some could care less amd just found inspiration. But you can certaibly share your opinion and let everyone know what your intentions were or why yiu're checking out. I always find that kind of feedback helpful as someone attempting a fill.
I've had scenarios as an author where the OP never reviewed (or at least never identified as such) and scenarios where I've been the OP and not commented because I honestly felt like the fic wasn't really what I wanted. I figure better to say nothing than come off rude with a comment. The person may just assume you left the meme altogether that way. That's what I always figure.
I always post prompts knowing anything could happen. And fill them knowing I filled it differently than another person would, for better or worse. It just kinda is what it is.
I've had that happen, and if it's completely out of line with what I want in the prompt I'll announce myself as the OP and either outright say that's not what I want (in a nice way, of course), or suggest that the people make a new prompt. :-)
I find it's better (as a filler and commenter) to have an OP who isn't shy about letting me know if I'm pushing their boundaries but who isn't rude about it. If the fill is stuff you prompted mixed with stuff you hadn't thought to rule out there will be *something* you like in there, so why not try phrasing it like "I really like ___, but ___ isn't my thing. Sorry, but I need to check out of this. I know others will really like this, though, so please keep it up!" And then make a more specific prompt with an 'inspired by' note.
When I fill the prompt I go where the whim takes me, even if it doesn't end up exactly following the OP prompting. I like the prompts for inspiration. I write for me. If you don't like it, write you own fill. :) My take on things I prompt... it's in the wind, I have no further control where it goes and I'm just grateful if someone fills it with anything at all.
It happened so often in my old fandom that the kink meme eventually died. There was a big divide between fillers who took the prompts as "inspiration, so be greatful for what you get" and "a gift for a prompter who's given me a chance to write, thank you". The mods did rule that prompters shouldn't need a laundry lists of things they don't want in their fic, cos that'd be ridiculous, but they also instigated a "don't like, don't read, scroll on by" rule which meant when someone filled their fill with something they didn't like, if they said anything they'd be the ones treated like an ass.
I had two prompts hijacked, one with a crossover I had no interest on and one with a squick I didn't even think of listing because i never imagined it would have come up.
Someone on this meme literally copied and pasted my prompt into their prompt, and then added a couple things to make it for different characters, and now someone is filling their prompt. I was so mad.
I recently discovered it happened to one of my prompts too.. and theirs got responses because of the diff. pairing the op asked for... I couldn't even get mad just.. duh. DB
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)it feels like every time there's any response to one of my prompts, it manages to go in directions that I didn't rule out because it didn't even occur to me anyone would want that, that's the opposite of the point!!!
maybe I'm just out of step with the meme's culture or unnaturally picky and should just write more of my own stuff, but it's really frustrating. I don't want to swoop in as the fun-forbidding OP or shit on other people's prefs because YKINMKATO and all that, people are getting inspired and having fun and that's great, and it's not actually unrelated enough to my prompt to ask for reposting, but I also wish I could clarify what I want/like without feeling like a mean party pooper. Plus I feel a bit awkward just abandoning my own prompts once they start squicking me out, because I know a lot of people want reassurance/feedback from OPs, and I don't want to lie and contribute to stuff I dislike any more than I want to be insulting/discouraging.
does this happen to other people? how do you feel like is the best way to deal with it?
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)Re: your prompts getting taken in ways you don't like
(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)But as an author: Give minimal feedback? I *have* had this happen to me. I got a "I'm so excited that you filled my prompt! I'll be back to review later!" that never had a follow-through. Yeah, that's definitely damning with faint praise from the OP. Message received. (The other commenters who loved my stuff sure cushioned that blow, though.)
You can be a little less blunt than that OP about it, though. Surely there's *something* you liked about the fill. A detail about Fisk's view of the world that the author included? A cute reference to the larger Marvel universe? Some good meta for the show that you haven't seen in other fics? Honestly, it's probably a lot like a parent admiring a kid's artwork of crayon scribblings sometimes, and I think I've probably gotten that kind of review from OPs too, but they were tactful enough about it that I didn't realize it. (Well, except maybe for the one that was more of a derailment, and I did label that as a not-fill and keep it out of the Completed post. That OP had absolutely no obligation to me, is what I'm saying.)
And YKINMKATO applies to the OP, too, so feel free to drop out and explain why, if you're getting a 50-part fill. Just say, "I really like this and this, but, you know, the character of Wesley just squicks me out so I can't read any more of this." I don't think I've ever seen a multi-part fill that didn't have multiple people commenting, anyhow, so everybody else will hopefully have fun continuing without you.
(And you'll hopefully get more and better advice from other people. It's not like I'm a long-established kinkmeme Miss Manners, here. I hate how my posts always look like pronouncements from on high, and I can't figure out how to change that.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)I also think there's absolutely nothing wrong with coming on and clearly stating you're the OP and how you feel. Because I do think most people are attentive to that and will either start a new prompt or try and take it in a different direction. I personally have said, at some point on this meme, variations on the following:
"OP here. That's not really my ship bit if you want to fill it that way, I know other people will enjoy it".
"OP here saying that I prefer X over Y personally, but it's really ultimately uo to you."
"OP saying for what it's worth, I was actually thinking..."
You can't really tell a filler what to do - most write to please the OP but some could care less amd just found inspiration. But you can certaibly share your opinion and let everyone know what your intentions were or why yiu're checking out. I always find that kind of feedback helpful as someone attempting a fill.
I've had scenarios as an author where the OP never reviewed (or at least never identified as such) and scenarios where I've been the OP and not commented because I honestly felt like the fic wasn't really what I wanted. I figure better to say nothing than come off rude with a comment. The person may just assume you left the meme altogether that way. That's what I always figure.
I always post prompts knowing anything could happen. And fill them knowing I filled it differently than another person would, for better or worse. It just kinda is what it is.
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-09 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)I write for me. If you don't like it, write you own fill. :)
My take on things I prompt... it's in the wind, I have no further control where it goes and I'm just grateful if someone fills it with anything at all.
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-11 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)I had two prompts hijacked, one with a crossover I had no interest on and one with a squick I didn't even think of listing because i never imagined it would have come up.
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)Write your own goddamn prompt with your own words. Don't steal someone else's.
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 05:17 am (UTC)(link)All I have to say is: chill.
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