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Daredevil's secret identity/Matt's identity remains secret, but somehow it comes out that Daredevil was a child soldier. How does the public react? Does this change anything? Especially if this comes out at some point during the show's events.

Bonus points for this information coming out in a particularly gut-wrenching, heart-breaking, or otherwise horrifying way.
+Bonus points if this changes Foggy's view of Matt being Daredevil.
++Bonus points for reactions from Frank, Karen, Claire, Brett, etc.
+++Bonus points for Matt not getting why everyone is so worked up about it

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I think Matt's reaction to this might be similar to the one Frank had about PTSD: "Don't say that. It's an insult to the people that really go through this."

He'd be right. I'm sure Matt's training and childhood were far from easy, but he was not a child soldier. He never killed, never went through war, never was hungry and scared on the front, and never was used as cannon fodder along with other children that he had watched die. There are actually kids that really go through this.

Just saying.

(Not OP) He was being trained to kill people thought, like Elektra. His training wasn't just "Well now you got your blind guy senses fix". He was being prepped for killing but was found lacking. Elektra and those others with them in S2 were the final products, they had habits etc. to deal with bodies.

Just because he didn't finish doesn't mean he wasn't still being trained.

I think the problem here is that ayrt is talking about RL child soldiers where as the prompt is talking about more comicbook child assassins like Black Widow, if anyone's read In the Absence of St. Germaine there's a bit where Natasha explains that the Red Room didn't really make "child soldiers" according to the most widely use definition.

Altho you could do something interesting with that, the public perception of what a child soldier is vs Matt's trained by a cult to fight a secret war involving supernatural forces backstory.

I'm imagining something bizarre now:

"You want ice cream, Daredevil?"

"Why are you offering me ice cream? Did I zone out at some point of the conversation and not realize it?"

"Well, no but you were a child, you know. thought you would like something nice."

"No. My teacher made me eat ice cream until I could name all the ingredients. I hate ice cream, but thanks I guess."

??? - person offering iced cream

By definition he was a child raised for combat: a "step up" from a child soldier.

Child soldiers are cannon fodder, given drugs like cocaine and minimal to no training before being throw onto the battlefield. While we most often see them depicted as teenagers in media, child soldiers can be any age from teenagers to actual toddlers, and they're little more than a distraction in the long run because they have little chance of surving against trained soldiers unless they have the element of surprise and attack in packs. They definitely come out traumatized and have a lot of problems in their attempts to lead somewhat normal lives if they survive, but with extensive therapy and a good support system it's possible for them to become (mostly) functional adults. A famous example is Ishmael Beah, who wrote his memoir "A Long Way Gone" about his experiences as a child soldier in the conflict that broke out in Sierra Leone during the late 90s-early 2000s.

In contrast, children raised to combat are isolated young, recieve extensive combat training, educated, and are psychologically conditioned. This method is used to promote intelligence and strategy while maintaining obedience and loyalty, as well as to ingrain the ideals of the group responsible for their training. They're a long-term investment, intended to be fully trained and truly loyal to the cause of the group who has raised and trained them by the time they join active combat—which usually happens in early adulthood, mid-late teens at at the absolute youngest. These children are the elites, intended to grow up and eventually act as sucessors to the current leadership.

Once the training has gone far enough, it's nearly impossible to retrain them and safely release them into normal society, because most of them will either be willing to die for the ideology they were raised in or will lay low, put on a show of cooperation, and try to sway others to their side over time in order to rebuild the group that molded them from the ashes. Even the ones that comply will probably remain resentful and uphold their ideals without the right kind of shakeup to prove them utterly wrong and convince them to question themselves and change their mindsets—which is almost impossible if they are near adulthood or reach adulthood still under the sway of the group conditioning them. The Hitler Youth and the KGB are prime examples of this (which inspired the fictional Hydra and Red Room organizations), as are the Spartans and the samurai (who the Chaste draw their inspiration from).

Uni student with honors here, history major+psych minor. I had a unit on child psychology and another on the evolution of warfare; how the warrior culture of old translate into modern day.

Note that when I specified samurai, I did not mention ninjas. For all that the skillset is definitely more similar to the pop culture idea of ninjas, actual ninjas were not extensively trained or educated specialists—they were small-time assassins picked from the general peasant population and used as personal hit squads for warlords after getting the bare minimum of training. Sure, they got to use some cool weapons and have interesting legends based around them, but they were ultimately much less dangerous than a samurai, who would have recieved a lifetime of training and education to become a lethal warrior and strategist, in additipn to being better fed and having better-quality equipment.

The Chaste combine a wandering warrior monk ideal (which is originally Chinese) with the pop-culture ninja, the bare-bones of samurai training and a lot of Spartan methodology. Only samurai+lords could carry and wield katanas, and they also had training+education from childhood onwards. Spartans and samurai alike trained kids starting at six-ish, though the Spartans were more brutal about it, and moved them through hand-to-hand to weaponry to non-fatal single combat up to killing and open combat. The heavy stuff started around thirteen to fifteen, generally they wouldn't become killers until their mid to late teens, and training completed upon reaching adulthood (late teens to early twenties depending on varied factors.

Matt did not complete his training, but he did train with Stick from 10-12, which may not be that long but is still long enough to plant the seeds and lay a framework. If he started training younger like Elektra did, he would have been more receptive to Stick's training. The older young are the harder it is to properly condition you into the frame of mind needed for a child raised to combat, and while Stick didn't enturely miss the window—if he stayed he probably could have turned Matt to his way of thinking through persuasion and exposure—he fucked up and left. In real life children raised to combat are usually encouraged to feel respect and some level of devotion for the teachers in the students in order to more easily manipulate them and cement their loyalty, ie honey vs vinegar/carrit and stick—reward compliance to encourage obedience. However, Stick is a dick and they emphasized the non-attatchment zen buddhist monk attitude instead, so Matt (who is way too emotional and had too many abandonmemt issues to not get attatched) got cut loose as a failure rather than getting lured in and slowly talked around.

I think Frank and the others would want to kill Stick

"You don't understand." The boy said, a knife pressing against the throat of the man he was holding hostage. "You have no idea-"

"I do!" Daredevil said quickly. "I know exactly what you're going through. I know what it's like-"

"Liar!"

"Killing him won't bring your teacher back! You failed! Whatever criteria they wanted you failed out and he liked you enough not to kill you."

"It's not like rejection!" The bow snarled. "How would you know what I've ben through? I had a purpose-"

"You were special. You were going to go be different. I know!" Daredevil snarled. "It happened to me! I was twelve and he left and I had no idea what I had done wrong. All I knew was that I wasn't good enough to be his soldier! So I tried to forget-"

"You-you weren't good enough?" The boy whispered.

"Yes, that. I trained and kept up in hopes that he would turn up again. That he'd realize I was good enough. But he never came back when I was that boy because I would never be it.

"I realize that's a good thing. I've seen what it does. You have hope. You have opportunity."

"I hurt these people."

"But you didn't kill them! And your circumstances would be considered by any decent DA and people.

"I don't want to hurt anyone." The boy whispered.

"Then don't, don't really hurt them. You were triggered into following your training. It's not okay but nothing that happened to you is okay." The boy surrendered.

"There you have it folks!" The anchorwoman said. "An exclusive video of the hostage situation two days ago that was diffused with Daredevil. What's your take on it, BIll?" She asked the man sitting next to her.

Brett turned off the television. He had read the reports but thought they had exaggerated but the video, the grainy footage hadn't lied. Daredevil had spoken with too much conviction and honesty to have it be a lie. At least from what he knew of him, the man had been raw.

He sighed.

A soldier.

That's what Daredevil had called himself. He wasn't good enough to be a solider.

At TWELVE.

Jesus Christ.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Brett opened a beer and tried not to think at it. What was he doing at twelve? Playing with Foggy or more like against him but still. He wasn't being trained to be a soldier for someone. He wasn't deemed a loser.

"He liked you enough not to kill you." - or something like that. Daredevil, he had said that. What an odd statement. How did he know?

Was...was Daredevil still in contact with his teacher? Is that how he knew? Fucking fuck. That was fucked up. He shook it off. Now wasn't the time. He shouldn't let it affect him but he didn't think it couldn't.

i like this!

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