Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
(Incidentally if you know the foreign alphabet you will most likely cringe because 'this is not how you transliterate')

But honestly? I'm also skimming over e.g. Spanish. I don't know any and have no intention of scraping at my basic level French knowledge in the hope that I might be able to extrapolate a few words...
And yeah as an anon above said: by the time I reached the end I might have forgotten the context anyway so it's not much use to me if the translations are provided then.

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
(I'm a non-english-speaking person so, .. I don't know if this fact biases me someway but still I felt I had to say it ò_ò)

as a reader, personally I find it interesting to see other languages representation in a story. I might just glance at the non-english-sentence and head over to the translation but never skip everything as a whole, because if it's in the story then there must be a reason why it's there.

however, writing in another language is difficult if you're not pretty fluent or have someone who's gonna check it for you so, I'd rather say that's better to write everything in english, instead of random nonsense in non-english. Or use other tricks/expedients/whatever to give the idea that those characters are speaking in their own language.

[...] prefer the dialogue to be written in english with some form of punctuation used to indicate that they are not speaking english?
how can you use punctuation to show that they're not talking in english..?

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Like, okay. Fisk can speak Mandarin, right? So a fic writer could do this in 3 ways:

-----

1) "谢谢," Fisk says.

2) "Xiè xie," Fisk says.

3) "Thank you," Fisk says in Mandarin.


Which one flows better for your general audience?

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Conversely, the first (or second) method works well if you want your audience and POV character to be in the dark about what the other character is saying:

"이거 얼마예요?"

".... huh?"

"얼마예요!"

"...?????"

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP but I've seen fics where either bolding/italics or different types of quotation marks or a combination of both were used to convey that currently language X is spoken

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Что ты говорешь?

What?

Не понимаю.


(Sorry I had to)

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
aaah like that! it makes sense
(I was thinking about full stops, commas etc =_=)

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
hahahahaha

Someone please help

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I've just written like four pages of meta about Matt/Steve in an Alpha/Beta/Omega universe. I just wanted to write about Matt getting pregnant and going to one of those expecting parent yoga classes, then I caught the feels.

Re: Someone please help

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds like you need encouragement, not help. :D

Re: What was wrong with Doris Urich?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
My handwave is brain cancer. It can present in so many different ways and can progress slowly or quickly. Secondary symptoms or treatment complications (esp. GI symptoms) can land a patient temporarily on IV fluids.

Re: Someone please help

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon you don't know what you've unleashed.

Matt and Steve have a good casual, friends-with-benefits thing going on. Then, somehow, Steve's super sperm manage to get through all their birth control methods, and Matt winds up pregnant. Steve would never abandon his child nor his friend (who he's NOT developing tender feelings for, what gave you that idea), and so him and Matt embark on the journey of parenthood together.

• Natasha pretends to be Daredevil. Criminals note that Daredevil seems a whole lot quieter than usual and that his moves seem a lot more...sensual? There are some confused feelings when the real Daredevil returns.

• Matt does one of those pregnant yoga classes. All the other expecting parents are jealous, because Matt can contort himself into a pretzel and his partner looks a lot like Captain America??? It's kind of uncanny.

• Sam and Foggy get into a "who's the most enthusiastic uncle" fight. Bucky wins.

• The Avengers' advice ranges from the actually useful (Clint's) to potentially dangerous (Tony's) to definitely dangerous (Thor's.)

• Matt has the most godawful cravings and his sex drive becomes absurd. It's a fifty-fifty shot if he's waking Steve up in the middle of the night for salt-and-vinegar chips with peanut butter or to ride him into the mattress. Sometimes it's both.

• Steve's obviously has always been attracted to Matt, but with Matt being all plump with his baby and smelling like him has awakened some primeval alpha instincts in Steve he did not know he possessed.

• Tony and Pepper are an alpha-alpha pair quite content to do the no kids thing. Instead, they sets up these huge college trust funds for both Clint's kids and the Matt-Steve baby.

• Steve's been in love with Matt since like the second time they slept together, but has been keeping it under wraps since everyone Steve loves has horrible shit happen to them. Matt realizes his own feelings when he's about four months along.

• Thor's gift to the couple is the pelt of a fearsome bear-wolf he wrestled into submission upon a wild and untamed moon, as befitting the child of great warriors.

• Matt's the type that can be back out fighting criminals 45 minutes after birth, while Steve has to go through all his breathing exercises because oh God there's a tiny human that's half him in the world now what do.

• In the courtroom, Matt makes the whole "wounded blind pregnant omega" thing work for him. It's very difficult to disagree with him when he speaks so elegantly and smells so very nice.

Matt's baby shower.

• Foggy was the first person to find out, and was actually right outside the bathroom when Matt was taking the pregnancy test, as Matt needed someone to check the results. He's not quite sure what to make of Captain America knocking his best friend up.

• Mrs. Nelson considers the baby her grandchild. Steve winds up at the Nelson family Christmas party somehow? He's getting the shovel talk from Foggy's dad?? What is his life??? (Steve is approved, as he is the nice Irish boy their Matty deserves.)

• Matt needs a two bedroom apartment now, so he drags Steve apartment hunting.

• Father Lantom wonders how he became so involved in superhero melodrama.

• The baby is given a nice, Biblical name. Like, I don't know, Peter.

I can't even prompt this now, I'm feeling possessive.

Lost a fill

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Does anyone know where the fic about Daredevil waking up in Avengers medical and panicking when he realised that Foggy must have seen him getting hurt in TV?

Re: What was wrong with Doris Urich?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Headcanon accepted!

Re: Someone please help

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, for anyone with angst needs:

Matt's mom had postpartum depression/psychosis so bad she became a nun because she thought she'd endanger Matt (in some continuities.) Discuss.

Depending on where on the timeline you place Age of Ultron, Steve's Scarlet Witch nightmare no longer is about him not having a purpose without war, but him being unable to give up war to be a good dad/losing his brand new little family due to his own fears of uselessness. (Also it ties in really well with the fatherhood themes in that movie.)

Re: Someone please help

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

giddy squeeeeeee

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yaaaassss, THIS.

Because the difference between "Nyet" and "Нет" is that I can figure out how the first one is supposed to be pronounced without needing to do research on how the Russian letters are pronounced. Even if translation is provided, I can't "hear" the dialogue when it's written like that.

Re: Lost a fill

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This one?

http://daredevilkink.dreamwidth.org/1296.html?thread=2685200#cmt2685200

Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This is probably seems pretty out of left field. I was thinking of that medical open Q&A thread a few pages back (I'll fine it again... maybe) but realized that this question is a little broader than that.

I have a character who has had a tracking chip implanted into them and needs to get it out ASAP with very basic first aid supplies. And I have so many questions.

1.) If they don't know where the tracking chip is but have a very good understanding of electronics (which I do not) could they cannibalize some house hold electronics to detect where exactly the tracker is.

2.) What's the best way to remove it, what tools would be best to have on hand? Would a paring knife, box cutter, or exacto knife be more ideal? Would stitches be needed? If so what's the best substitute for those?

3.) What's the best way to disinfect these tools before use? Would soaking them in a bowl of rubbing alcohol be okay, or like, maybe sending them through the dish washer? IDK.

4.) How bloody would this whole mess be?

Okay, those are my questions, mostly medical but not completely.

Re: Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, this squicks me out just thinking about it, but I think it all depends on where the thing is located?

Basically, the sharpest tool you can find. Disinfect it with rubbing alcohol (or anything you can find really. Something is better than nothing). Stitches would probably be needed, especially if the character doesn't know where the chip is and needs to go digging around for it.

There will be blood.

Re: Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
OP: I've been having a hard time googling this one. But like... where do tracking chips go when they are injected? Is it just right under the skin, or like in the muscle? Does it depend?

Re: Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OP: Yeah, I didn't know how to trigger warn for that, so, sorry.

Re: writing non english dialouge

(Anonymous) 2015-08-11 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
in regards to the punctuation question, in comic books use < and > at the beginning and end of the sentence to indicate a non english language (eg; "< and here he is >" )

Re: Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
If they're embedded too deeply in the body then a chip couldn't broadcast. Too much interference from muscle, blood, bone, and the body's own electrical currents. Chips would have to be subcutaneous (like the tracking chip in Casino Royale.) Once it was located it would be easy to extract.

Re: Removing Tracking Devises Questions TW... IDK what for

(Anonymous) 2015-08-11 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
So, I'm the medical Q&A anon.

The tiny rice-sized RFID microchips that you might put in your pet are a passive tracking device, which means they don't emit a signal, aren't constantly monitored, and can only be read right there at the sight of the pet.

Implantable GPS tracking chips aren't much in use for a few reasons. The body interferes with the signal. The implant needs an internal power source, which means it A) has a limited lifespan and B) will be fairly large for an implantable device. For example, a GPS device that I have is about the size of three quarters stacked together and it has a projected lifespan of a year.

But! We're dealing in a world with the Iron-Man suit, Pym particles, and all sorts of sci-fi nonsense, so make your device whatever size you want.

As for detection, I don't know much about what kind of signals communicate with GPS satellites, but they do make generic detectors for GPS tracking devices so I imagine that someone with enough know how could make such a device if they have enough electronic scrap.

Of the items mentioned, I would go for the exacto knife and to sterilize it I would submerge it in boiling water for 10 minutes.

How bloody it would be will depend on where it is, and how lucky your tagged character is. A largish device would probably be placed fairly deep in a meaty or fatty location such as thigh, buttock, or breast. If it were't deep, it would be pretty easily found just by firmly feeling all over the body.

A deep cut in a meaty area is going to bleed significantly, but probably not dangerously with decent first aid (unless a major vessel is hit). With my scenario of a largish device fairly deep in a meaty area, stitches would be ideal, but a lot of injuries that "need" stitches will eventually heal without them. The bigger danger would probably be infection over bleeding.

Now, if you decide to go with a smaller, more sci-fi device, you could imbed it more shallowly and remove it more safely. Put it somewhere the person is unlikely to casually touch often.