daredevilkink | Daredevil Prompt Post #12

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This post is for prompts involving characters from Netflix's Daredevil.

Now that The Defenders prompt post is live, all crossovers between anyone in the four individual shows should go over there. Prompts only including characters that appear in Daredevil should still go here.

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You can rant :)

I remember Sam Wilson, yeah. Mostly I remember him as the guy Captain USA met while jogging xd.

"No self-respecting Black man would wear their (America's) symbol".

I fully support that. It's not my place to criticize any Black Americans for how they feel about the country that kidnapped them and kills them on regular basis. I do understand that this also home. But that is definitely how I feel, and I'm not even Black. Or American. Respect to the writers for having the courage to bring that up. It sounds like they dismissed it as part of their "happy ending" and that the guy's ultimate character arc is "I forgive you, white people" - which, uh... questionable. Especially in a movie made by white Americans for other white Americans, that feels very self-serving. But I'm speculating, maybe it's nothing like that.

It avoids the psychological complexities of human trafficking by using comicbooks science.

But that's the interesting part!! It's to be expected from a Marvel movie, yeah, but that's why I don't watch Marvel movies anymore, and forgot the ones I did see practically in their entirety. They always seem like there's just nothing behind them, just a bunch of Ubermenshen in colorful capes flying around to "save the world" and very predictably winning every time whith no effort. I know there's a bit more to it, but, still.

Spy plots are something I've been looking for recently, so I'll keep this one in mind. And yeah, from the sound of the it - when well done, it could be a really good movie.

GotG were definitely the most memorable one! I guess introducing talking racoons will ensure that. But you could easily see that the movie doesn't take itself seriously - which did well for them - and gave some hilarious lines. "Why is..." felt like generational lingo for a while. Not so much anymore, and I'm sad to see it go.

Deadpool being vulgar and "politically incorrect" is dissppointing. You'd think script writers. And while the vulgar part can be up to taste, "politically incorrect" is a euphemism. That's not something Im willing to accept anymore.

Thanks for the rant! Genuinely.

the guy's ultimate character arc is "I forgive you, white people"

Isaiah Bradley, who said the phrase about self-respecting Black men, doesn't forgive white people at the end (if I recall correctly).

Sam decides to wear the costume despite everything, because he wants things to change and wants to be the change (after he gave the shield back at the start, the government spent no time to nominate a new Captain America, obviously white and blonde). And I think Isaiah eventually "accepts" Sam's choice, when they talk about it at the end, but he's not going to change life-style or anything. (My memory of that show is kinda vague.)

I get your point about Black Widow! I did find the psychological problem of being mentally controlled interesting, despite it not being what actual trafficked humans go through. Yelena says something like "You're conscious all the time, but you don't know which part is you and which part is the controlling. I still don't know.", at some point after she's been freed from the control.

And after all is said and done, Yelena (and at least two other Widows, probably more) ends up working as an assassin (for the CIA apparently?), which is realistic.

GotG definitely created a few memorable memes, yes. And talking raccoon aside, everyone fell in love with the talking tree who only says "I am Groot" for some reason.

I'm always up for ranting! :)

Oh, that does sound better. I'll give that show a chance when I have the time.

...so the happy ending in BW is that abused KGB agents are now killers on CIA payroll? That's, uh... probably realistic, yeah, but unless it's framed as a PROBLEM HERE, AUDIENCE it's seriously fucked up. That's what I hate the Punisher for - it spent the entire series portraying corruption in the army/policing system, to the point where the main cop character quits FBI in rage. That was really something for a show made in USA, I respected that. And then they give us an epilogue in which we learn that the woman who quit FBI over crime, human rights violations and corruption JOINED THE CIA. You know, as a step toward justice. Nothing to see here, just a logical happy ending folks...

(sorry for introducing a different show entirely, it seemed relevant).

I would probably be a little annoyed at creating and exploring fake psych problems while ignoring real ones. But I get why people find that interesting; speculating about human mind always is. And if done well, it can make some really, really good fiction. That's hard to achieve though.

That said, I'm a bit curious about Yelena as a character. I'd give her a chance :)

I remember the wave of video esseys on YT that started with "Why is [name]" and proceeded to dismantle what was usually some conservative media figure. That was pretty great, I wish saying that stayed around longer.

so the happy ending in BW is that abused KGB agents are now killers on CIA payroll?

Not exactly! The happy ending is ending their abusers and freeing the Widows. The post-credit scene jumps to after Endgame (and after Natasha's death) and shows us Yelena on Natasha’s grave, where she's joined by a woman [who should be CIA, I think, but who knows?] who tells her she's got a job. Yelena is annoyed, but the woman adds "Don't you want to kill the man responsible for your sister's death?" aka Clint, and we see how that goes in Hawkeye.

It's in Hawkeye that one of the Widows tells Yelena that she should do as she does and work as a killer. (And yes, it is a problem.) I'm not sure how marvel is going to handle that (Yelena, along with Bucky and other villains, will be in Thunderbolts, which in the comics is a team of ex-villains/grey characters who work for good I think), I don't exactly have high hopes. I do hope Yelena doesn't end being like a Punisher for the government.

And no worries about introducing another show, rants are always welcome! Also yes, the Punisher ending was very disappointing. Madani aside, S1 ends with Frank admitting to be scared, which was cool and interesting to me, so of course by S2 he goes back to unapologetically killing criminals.

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