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Re: Matt and Karen: She finally tells him off for how he talks to her.

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It is interesting to think about how Matt's interactions with women have so dominated who he is in the comics though.

Because as terrible as Stark, Richards, Pym, etc.'s history is, they're not still, years later, running around in their books making amends for the ways they've wronged the women in their life and thinking about them and their impact on a regular basis.

And with Matt, that's clearly the case. There hasn't been a storyline since Karen Page's death that hasn't touched on how her death impacted Matt and caused him to spiral. Same thing with Milla Donovan, and for a long time with Elektra.

I think that the other characters you mentioned are often too arrogant or self-centered to be able to reflect like that. Certainly in later storylines, there's not a sense that anything going on with any of the female characters is really traumatizing to the past or current men in their lives the same way that Matt's relationships have affected him well after the fact.

So even if his relationships have had their issues, there is at least a sense with Matt that he really felt every relationship that went wrong and carries it with him, which is I think pretty unique. And you're right that some of that comes from his strong sense of forgiveness and desire for social justice.

I think he and Peter Parker have that in common, actually, because Gwen Stacy is the only other equivalent type of relationship I can think of that had such an impact years later.