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Talk about the Defenders! Speculate, discuss, squee and debate. There's a thread for each episode so you can discuss what you've watched so far without being spoiled for future episodes - click on top level view to see only the first comment in each thread and stay spoiler-free.

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Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but at the same time, it seems much more random because we're not given enough screentime with just her and her own viewpoints and ideas. Hopefully DDS3 will fix that.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

The Defenders were handled terribly as far as character development is concerned.

But I think what's going on in her head is pretty clear and well-grounded in s.2. And in s.1, she was a freshly introduced character, so the expectations for writing are a bit different. I think she was introduced quite well, though.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, I hope not. She's already had so much screen time! I'm not watching a comic book show about daredevil to get the trials and tribulations of a secondary character secretary who decided she's a journalist. Frankly I'm tired of her taking up story space that could be better used elsewhere.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

(x5 billion please)

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

DA.
I have to disagree here. I tend to get tired and bored when a TV show only focuses on the main character so far in DD they did a pretty good job balancing that.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

I agree but it depends on the side character. On Karen we'll have to agree to disagree. Last week Geeks of Color called Karen the female Danny Rand, aka Danny Bland, aka why do we have to keep watching this annoying character. The answer is we don't. The writers had their 15 minutes to do something great with Karen and I'm not about spending my life waiting for a character to get good. There're too many other great characters on my tv to waste time stanning Karen Page.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

NA

I think she's interesting. Her role in s.2 was one of the highlights of the season - it was so viscerally clear that she's trying to redeem herself in the worst way possible, and you could see her struggling with her past even though the past is never mentioned. I want to see where she'll go next - will Weasley's murder be revealed? Will she try a new approach to guilt? Who would she trust with her darkest secret?

And of course, there's still whatever she's been running from since before she came to new York. We've been getting hints about that from the very beginning. If the writers have done it with a clear idea of her past in mind, it could be done brilliantly. If they decided to "just wing it", it'll probably be done terribly, but I still want to see which one it will be.

All in all, Karen is one of the more dynamic and interesting characters in the show.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

Completely my reaction to Karen now too. It's not that I hate her, it's just that I don't care about her anymore. I used to but somewhere along the way the show has killed any goodwill I had toward her and now I just want to ffwd every time I see her.

Re: What is even happening with Karen

[(Anonymous)]

I really hope that they will.

Viewpoints and ideas of different characters are what makes this show interesting, and Karen's views on life are all twisted and tangled up... lots and lots to explore.