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Re: Short-haired Foggy

[(Anonymous)]

I absolutely love Foggy. He's my favorite DD character, and while I think the short hair made sense, I feel like it signified he'd gone corporate, and lost some of his soul. (Like he repeatedly accused Marci of doing. He's not immuned). I mean he acted like Hogarth's puppy dog. He still has some Foggy in him, (bringing Matt the suit, calling him family), but he feels like a pod person. I want his long hair and neighborhood living idealism back. 😔

Re: Short-haired Foggy

[(Anonymous)]

Foggy talked about being corporate in college with Matt. Foggy wanted the money, he wanted to stay and be corporate after the internship, it's Matt who wanted all the other idealistic pro-bono bullshittery lol. So Foggy cutting his hair felt like he'd gone corporate, yeah, but also like he wasn't being true to himself. Or at least the better part of himself. And I don't think he's going to get that back until he reconnects with Matt.

Re: Short-haired Foggy

[(Anonymous)]

So very true. Matt was always the instigator about not going corporate.

Re: Short-haired Foggy

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree that Matt was the one who was idealistically in favor or pro-bono work, and only representing the innocent, which Foggy followed him in, but Foggy had his own form of idealism. He believed in the neighborhood, in taking care of people, and in second chances.

Look at the way he talked about the people in Josie's, or the way he fixed Mrs. Cardenas' sink, or he ran through a building looking for injured people WHILE IMPALED. That wasn't Matt or his influence, that was who FOGGY was, and he seems a little colder and less likely to get his hands dirty. It's sad, because Foggy was a roll up his sleeves and take care of his neighbors type, and that seems to have fallen by the wayside as he's found success.

Re: Short-haired Foggy

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this is what I mean when I said he's not being true to his best self. Say what you will about the Matt and Foggy friendship but Matt did bring out a better side of Foggy, the side you mention, even when Foggy was rolling his eyes about it or making comments like referring to Matt as his 'soft-hearted partner'. And it seems fair to attribute Foggy's idealism to Matt's influence since it's not Foggy's default, and now that Matt's out of Foggy's life, Foggy's super jazzed about money and sex and power (the WAY he touts his power firm, ugh) and idek who he is anymore.