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Re: Whole season discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Karen really disappointed me throughout this season. Her insistence that Daredevil is separate from Matt and that he needs to give him up in order to be true to himself shows she knows zilch about Matt. Foggy at least brought him the suit. Karen... was just the absolute worst friend ever.

Re: Whole season discussion

[(Anonymous)]

She did not disappoint me in that I totally expected this kind of behavior from her. Matt not putting up with her shit for once was a nice surprise.

Re: Whole season discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It didn't fit with my idea of the character of Karen, based on both seasons of Daredevil. She was super into the idea of Daredevil in the show. And even more taken with the Punisher. If she had found out Matt was DD back when she was gushing about being saved by him and him doing good work, I feel like she would've just been even more in love with Matt.

By the time Matt told her he was DD, tho, he'd been lying to her and screwing up the Castle case and had a strange woman in his bed, so I get that she would still be pissed at him etc. but it wouldn't be about being DD per se, it would be about Matt being a shit to her in general. Unless he himself blamed all of his shitty behavior on his addiction to DD'ing... And she believed that... So now she is all anti-DD since she believes it screws up his life too much and hurts his friends?

Idk. Would help if they showed us how that scene went, after Matt told her he was DD.

Re: Whole season discussion

[(Anonymous)]

Karen was consistently the low end of the show for me, too. Foggy wasn't great either but Karen, if this is how Karen loves Matt, then how is she any better for Matt than Elektra? They're both levels of toxic to him.

Re: Whole season discussion

[(Anonymous)]

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