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Another magnificent chapter.

Let me add that I also strongly dislike most of the Avengers right now...and I usually adore most of them. I'm not a huge fan of Natasha, as I don't trust her and it makes my skin crawl that she views people and the world like a set of objects to be studied and manipulated. Which makes her a badass character, but not terribly likable to me. So you are so nailing her character in this story. The rest of the team I usually adore, though. Yet I wanted to Matt to stab Clint in a tender area for the arrow at Foggy. Just like I was upset at Tony for the thrown object way back in the first chapter or so. Tony and Natasha also got frowns over wanting to stay during the medical stuff with Matt and Foggy. Privacy, people! Respect it.

But this dislike is a good thing in this story because it's appropriate for the context and events, but especially for Matt as a character. Not to mention Foggy, who is always on Matt's side and is protective, too. The Avengers we know from the movies are mostly in a very clear antagonistic relationship of them vs the bad guy(s). Here, we're seeing them be invasive, antagonistic, investigative, and manipulative to Matt and Foggy, who we all love.

It's easy to forget most of the Avengers literally know no limits. Natasha and Clint work for a black ops agency that has no limits - they assassinate, lie, steal, manipulate, oppress, and disappear people as they will because as far as Shield is concerned, Shield is the ultimate authority that only answers to the World Council (which is made up of like 5 people). Tony is rich and powerful as all fuck and is a tech genius. Information and all that money and power can get are his at a snap of his fingers or a request to JARVIS. Thor is the crown prince of the realm that rules the 9 realms - his only limits are those defined by Odin and possibly Frigga. Steve is too ingrained in the military/Shield and that mindset - especially since his modern world experience is Shield, that he's more apt to think they have every right to know everything about Matt and Foggy's lives. Bruce is the only one who knows limits and would respect privacy and boundaries like a regular person because he is the most regular of them all (aside from his genius and the Hulk), and especially as he was hunted for years and until very recently by the US Military.

I'm with Matt. Don't trust the Avengers and cut ties from them as soon as this is done. They don't have the same priorities as Matt and Foggy. The Avengers is all about the big picture and saving cities/countries/planets. Matt and Foggy are all about the individual and saving one person at a time. Of course, who knows if the Avengers will let them.

You killed me by having the Avengers know Matt is Daredevil. My heart stopped. I'm now crossing my fingers that this doesn't bite our boys in the ass.

Again, wonderful chapter. My fist is still shaking in anger at Clint!

Thank you =D

See, I really like the Avengers too but I'm well aware of their flaws- they wouldn't be interesting characters if they weren't flawed. Natasha is a very hard character to pin down because she's always calculating so I'm glad I managed to nail her character. The Avengers don't do so well with privacy... it's something I've noticed in the movies. They're no good at respecting boundaries and privacy.

Yes, exactly! Add to that the fact that the Avengers were, in a way, responsible for what happened to Hell's Kitchen (in canon) and then Matt (in fic) and well, I've never been able to see Matt and Foggy as liking them straight off (unless approached in a correct way).

To all of that - YES! Though maybe not Steve... he might be a military man but he believes in civil liberties first. I do think, though, he'd want to know about Daredevil and Matt's abilities which would negate his belief in those civil liberties. Bruce is definitely the real ordinary man on the team with a strong sense of what happens when people get involved in his life.

Oh definitely. Matt's not going to hang around the Avengers (if he can) once this is over. They're just not operating on the same scale - Matt's focused on the trees and can't/doesn't need to see the forest while the Avengers focus on the forest and don't see the trees. If that makes sense?

Not saying if it will or not. =)

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.

Prompt Post #4

Re: Fill: Clear and Honest Communication 11/15(?)

Re: Fill: Clear and Honest Communication 11/15(?)