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Please head over to Discussion Post #2!
Please head over to Discussion Post #2!
IT WAS SO MUCH WORSE THAN EXPECTED, GUYS. I'M NOT FUCKING OKAY. SOMEONE HOLD ME.
The earlier anon above seems equally distressed, and having just read it, I get why.
*HOLDS YOU BOTH TIGHTLY BECAUSE I'M NOT OK EITHER*
*HOLDS YOU BOTH TIGHTLY BECAUSE I'M NOT OK EITHER*
i haven't got my hands on it yet ugh oh god im so scared
We're here if you need us nonnie (although who are we kidding, you'll probably need us)
SUPPORT GROUP, MORE LIKE OFFICIAL SCREAMING ROOM.
BECAUSE I CAN'T STOP SCREAMING RIGHT NOW.
I AM IN PAIN IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY
BECAUSE I CAN'T STOP SCREAMING RIGHT NOW.
I AM IN PAIN IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY
What happened? Gimme spoilers!
A pain greater than anything I have ever known, like my soul has been ripped from my body. It was so bad i could only skim read it.
anon do u really want spoilers because i can tell u but also please read it and experience this pain for yourself first hand
anon do u really want spoilers because i can tell u but also please read it and experience this pain for yourself first hand
thanks! my Tumblr's buckygreyjoy, message me there and I'll give you my e-mail.
yes, thank you! I gave out my Tumblr already to the first anon, but I'm going to need all he help I can get since. SPANISH.
(frozen comment) Re: Always-a-Girl! [Character] Is transphobic.
(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 12:11 am (UTC)(link)thanks for this - it's been nagging at me a while
"stop trying to take away my disabled superhero."
Agree 100%. Though I haven't seen too many firs where this is a problem. True, I don't read things if the synopsis doesn't appeal, but any chance of a link to something that annoyed you?
Agree 100%. Though I haven't seen too many firs where this is a problem. True, I don't read things if the synopsis doesn't appeal, but any chance of a link to something that annoyed you?
I want spoilers, purely because if I buy the comic I'll have to start always buying the comics, in addition to my Marvel Unlimited subscription and I can't afford that. But only reading on there puts me a good 6months behind and it's frustrating. I want to know now!!
I'm okay with the meme slowing down tbh, it gives me more time to complete stories if the posts don't close as fast.
ayrt \o
I think part of Matt's odd friendship with Frank is that he understands exactly where Frank is coming from. All versions of Matt lost his father violently which means the empathy flows freely when it comes to Frank's family. But Matt also understands that isn't just about losing the people you love and who loved you back; it's about the fires of rage that those deaths lit under both of them and the lengths it drives them to. Matt found a decent way to channel that in his law work but Frank was only ever a soldier and he didn't have Matt's youth and adaptability when the wife and kids died. So on that level the partnership works - Matt can't bring himself to turn Frank away and Frank can't leave the only kindred spirit that he's ever found. (I mean, I read The Omega Drive too and I know Frank has a sidekick/partner in that one but she leaves. Matt would never do that to Frank, at least not while they're on the job. Which brings me to my next point...)
I've thought for a while that Matt is really Frank's overworked and underappreciated Work Wife. "Fraaaank I told you to bring rubber bullets for this one!" "Oh fer Christ's sake Matty it's always somethin' with you!"
If these two were to actually start courting it would be something like out of an 80s movie. Frank is that guy who pulls up on his motorcycle in front of the house at three in the morning and calls Matt out. "You comin' out altar boy?"
"My father told me about you Frank Castle! I know what kind of a man you are!"
"Yeah. But are you comin' out?"
And Matt scuttles down the drain pipe and snuggles up behind Frank in under a minute. For some reason he's wearing shoes imagine that!!!!
I think part of Matt's odd friendship with Frank is that he understands exactly where Frank is coming from. All versions of Matt lost his father violently which means the empathy flows freely when it comes to Frank's family. But Matt also understands that isn't just about losing the people you love and who loved you back; it's about the fires of rage that those deaths lit under both of them and the lengths it drives them to. Matt found a decent way to channel that in his law work but Frank was only ever a soldier and he didn't have Matt's youth and adaptability when the wife and kids died. So on that level the partnership works - Matt can't bring himself to turn Frank away and Frank can't leave the only kindred spirit that he's ever found. (I mean, I read The Omega Drive too and I know Frank has a sidekick/partner in that one but she leaves. Matt would never do that to Frank, at least not while they're on the job. Which brings me to my next point...)
I've thought for a while that Matt is really Frank's overworked and underappreciated Work Wife. "Fraaaank I told you to bring rubber bullets for this one!" "Oh fer Christ's sake Matty it's always somethin' with you!"
If these two were to actually start courting it would be something like out of an 80s movie. Frank is that guy who pulls up on his motorcycle in front of the house at three in the morning and calls Matt out. "You comin' out altar boy?"
"My father told me about you Frank Castle! I know what kind of a man you are!"
"Yeah. But are you comin' out?"
And Matt scuttles down the drain pipe and snuggles up behind Frank in under a minute. For some reason he's wearing shoes imagine that!!!!
if u are not opposed to downloading you could probably find the issue online
i can't get my HTML to work so um.. SPOILERS SPOILERS DO NOT READ SPOILERS HERE STOP READING
STOP READING
OKAY....
SPOILERS..... JUST NOW.....
Okay so basic background; shits goind down so badly that Matt decides making a deal with Fisk (who turns out to be alive) is a good idea.
its not a good idea.
The main thing that everyone is freaking out about is that Fisk had Kristen and Foggy kidnapped and messed up so that he could have leverage against them.
Matt's been assuming he could negotiate with Fisk and also that Fisk wanted daredevil to work for him.
Fisk just wants him to die.
He sets Ikari on him and tells him that if he wins the fight, either Foggy or Kristen will die (because he only needs one hostage). Matt knows that even if he dies they won't truly be safe and is desperate to figure out a third option.
Enter the shroud who fucks things up and kills Ikari. Cue Matt's utterly heartbreaking reaction, stating that the Kingpin never bluffs and one of his friends is now dead.
DRAMATIC CLIFFHANGER WHILE WE ALL SOB AND THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE MONTH WE HAVE TO WAIT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS
i can't get my HTML to work so um.. SPOILERS SPOILERS DO NOT READ SPOILERS HERE STOP READING
STOP READING
OKAY....
SPOILERS..... JUST NOW.....
Okay so basic background; shits goind down so badly that Matt decides making a deal with Fisk (who turns out to be alive) is a good idea.
its not a good idea.
The main thing that everyone is freaking out about is that Fisk had Kristen and Foggy kidnapped and messed up so that he could have leverage against them.
Matt's been assuming he could negotiate with Fisk and also that Fisk wanted daredevil to work for him.
Fisk just wants him to die.
He sets Ikari on him and tells him that if he wins the fight, either Foggy or Kristen will die (because he only needs one hostage). Matt knows that even if he dies they won't truly be safe and is desperate to figure out a third option.
Enter the shroud who fucks things up and kills Ikari. Cue Matt's utterly heartbreaking reaction, stating that the Kingpin never bluffs and one of his friends is now dead.
DRAMATIC CLIFFHANGER WHILE WE ALL SOB AND THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE MONTH WE HAVE TO WAIT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS
Shiiiiiiit! Thanks for telling me. Though this makes me want to read the damn thing for myself now! I can never find complete comics online to download :(
We'll, there is no fucking way they would ever get away with killing Foggy, right? RIGHT? So I'm working on the assumption that Kingpin was bluffing and they're both ok, or Kirsten's dead, which would be sad but kind of par for the course for any woman who Matt falls for. (Poor guy)
Ah crap, this is why I both live and hate comics in equal measure!
We'll, there is no fucking way they would ever get away with killing Foggy, right? RIGHT? So I'm working on the assumption that Kingpin was bluffing and they're both ok, or Kirsten's dead, which would be sad but kind of par for the course for any woman who Matt falls for. (Poor guy)
Ah crap, this is why I both live and hate comics in equal measure!
Yeah like... comics has a long history of fridging women so i wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
Except this is Mark Waid and he's like... i can't see HIM doing that.
And Fisk specifically mentioned that Foggy was worse for wear from the whole kidnapping thing and that he had to stabalise him and im like... please.... dear god...
don't be foreshadowing.
im personally happy to live in the fantasy land where they are both okay forever and ever and the Matt rescues them and everyone kisses the end.
Except this is Mark Waid and he's like... i can't see HIM doing that.
And Fisk specifically mentioned that Foggy was worse for wear from the whole kidnapping thing and that he had to stabalise him and im like... please.... dear god...
don't be foreshadowing.
im personally happy to live in the fantasy land where they are both okay forever and ever and the Matt rescues them and everyone kisses the end.
I don't like Foggy.
Maybe it's intentional but, in my opinion, he comes off as more of a "nice guy" than an actual nice guy.
Maybe it's intentional but, in my opinion, he comes off as more of a "nice guy" than an actual nice guy.
I'M NOT OKAY. I MAY NEVER BE OKAY AGAIN.
OP:
I'm really into the interpretation of Matt being the Work Wife who always tries to keep Frank in line. His first recourse is normally violence, because he's Daredevil and Frank's the Punisher and that's what they do. But he also does his best to appeal to Frank's logic and humanity, two traits that I think a lot of heroes don't believe Frank possesses at all.
Something that I find really interesting about the Powerless AU is that Matt gets to Frank BEFORE he's killed anybody, and interacting with him actually gets Frank to realize that he doesn't have to kill people (see this gut-wrenching conversation: http://tmblr.co/Z8kWer1o7GUog). This is so heartbreaking because Frank believing in himself and having hope for the future is his version of being "powerless." (...and then, of course, everything goes to shit, but I won't spoil it for you if you haven't read it.) But the only reason he was able to realize that about himself was because Matt saw the good in him when no one else would. Matt's the only one who could ever have a chance to push Frank towards a different path, and I think that some fundamental understanding of that is what drives him to try again and again to redeem Frank.
BTW Gaaah did you have to mention motorcycles? I know nothing about them except what I know from this song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg) and now it's giving me Frank/Matt feels, how do you do that?
"Red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme." ;) Although for this pairing, black hair and red leather would work pretty okay, too...
I'm really into the interpretation of Matt being the Work Wife who always tries to keep Frank in line. His first recourse is normally violence, because he's Daredevil and Frank's the Punisher and that's what they do. But he also does his best to appeal to Frank's logic and humanity, two traits that I think a lot of heroes don't believe Frank possesses at all.
Something that I find really interesting about the Powerless AU is that Matt gets to Frank BEFORE he's killed anybody, and interacting with him actually gets Frank to realize that he doesn't have to kill people (see this gut-wrenching conversation: http://tmblr.co/Z8kWer1o7GUog). This is so heartbreaking because Frank believing in himself and having hope for the future is his version of being "powerless." (...and then, of course, everything goes to shit, but I won't spoil it for you if you haven't read it.) But the only reason he was able to realize that about himself was because Matt saw the good in him when no one else would. Matt's the only one who could ever have a chance to push Frank towards a different path, and I think that some fundamental understanding of that is what drives him to try again and again to redeem Frank.
BTW Gaaah did you have to mention motorcycles? I know nothing about them except what I know from this song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg) and now it's giving me Frank/Matt feels, how do you do that?
"Red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme." ;) Although for this pairing, black hair and red leather would work pretty okay, too...
I have trouble with the "nice guy" trope. I understand it is manipulative and dishonest, but I think I could have been considered a "nice guy" when it came to dating, albeit a genderswapped one. I told people I was more interested in friendship than a failed romantic relationship, and that before trying for romance I wanted a solid friendship first, and I wasn't manipulative or lying. That's really what I wanted, and I did in fact have attempts at romance that failed back into friendship. I understand that the "nice guy" isn't operating at all like that, but it takes mental gymnastics I think I'm not capable of to understand a "nice guy" mentality, because to me "friendzoning" doesn't really make all that much sense. (I have trouble recognizing several types of emotional manipulation, and simultaneously think I may have been guilty of some of them and that I'm way too straightforward to even understand where they're coming from in the first place. It's like a mental block.) So I can see a demonization of a guy who was interested in romance but settles for a friendship as a "nice guy" when he's actually just a nice guy, and I can definitely see the problem of a guy who thinks a romance is somehow owed him for his friendship. And I can see a romance blossoming out of a friendship, too, and it not being some kind of betrayal. (In fact, as I've said before, that was always my preference.)
So could you expand on this with regards to Foggy? I really don't see the offering-friendship-but-really-expecting-romance thing with him, which is what I understand a "nice guy" to be, but I can be blind to it, like I said.
So could you expand on this with regards to Foggy? I really don't see the offering-friendship-but-really-expecting-romance thing with him, which is what I understand a "nice guy" to be, but I can be blind to it, like I said.
^THIS. Look, authors, I know Matt Murdock is a pretty, pretty thing, but please look a little deeper and at least be canon accurate with his disability. The really beautiful thing (besides his everything) is that he's a capable badass while ALSO BEING LEGIT BLIND. Maybe not the same kind of blindness as the normal Joe, but his eyes really don't work!
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