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The Defenders-only Discussion Post!
The Defenders Prompt Post
Talk about the Defenders! Speculate, discuss, squee and debate. There's a thread for each episode so you can discuss what you've watched so far without being spoiled for future episodes - click on top level view to see only the first comment in each thread and stay spoiler-free.
Anon commenting is not mandatory for this post. Playing nice is always mandatory.
(frozen comment) Re: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and education
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)We also do not know for sure whether Danny Rand has a disability or not. I personally don't headcanon him as having one in the slightest, but it could be very easy to state that he does have one, whether it's NVLD or autism or dyslexia or a bunch of others. Hell, someone in the prompts post strongly headcanons him as having had/having psychotic episodes, and that reading isn't that far out there. Now, it's up to pure interpretation, because especially wrt to autism I personally feel like it's impossible to distinguish between a Danny that is autistic and behaves as in canon and one who is allistic and behaves as in canon, due to how canon in the show could potentially explain p much most of the things that could be autism or could be not. Like it barely makes a difference, except also in fic scenarios.
I also think you severely underestimate the prevalnce of language disabilities and also don't seem to know much about how academic reading in the US is taught (variably, hugely dependent on region--my high school very explicitly taught a bunch of academic reading skills along with writing skills, from reading to detect credibility of sources to how to read papers in fields you aren't in to separating out jargon uses of ordinary words from ordinary uses of ordinary words, and some basically teach nothing on the topic).
(frozen comment) Re: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and education
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)As long as a character is not being portrayed as being disabled, it's not disabled. That's just how fiction works - unless stated otherwise, whatever is "the norm" is implied. That's canon. Your headcanon can be vastly different, of course, but I wasn't under the impression we were discussing anybody's headcanon.
My statements are generalized because we're talking about principles of human cognition. Or in other words, *general rules* of human cognition. Do consider the word "general". There's many specific scenarios in which people's cognition may differ from how it *generally* is, but I have no need to discuss them all in a dreamwidth comment thread. This is not a psych encyclopedia.
*You* seem to have a need to prove something, but what, I am not sure.
People's experiences "don't count" if they can't be applied to the matter at hand. You can't discuss Luke Cage's experience of prison by recalling the experience of youth detention by your white teenage friends. Too many variables are changed.
Or maybe it would be more accurate to say that if you want to discuss how human emotional development works, and what it would mean for this or that character, you can't use your autistic cousin as the main example you're extrapolating from.
Emotions work differently for autistic people, and reading works differently for people with severe language disabilities. There's nothing particularly terrible or insulting about that.
(frozen comment) Re: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and education
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)Mod, please freeze? This is stupid af.
(frozen comment) Re: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and education
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)And while we're at it, let's freeze all of our sayings, proverbs and general statements, because it's not like there is an understanding that when you say "people have ten fingers", "generally" goes unsaid.
And yes, you would need to discuss autistic people when discussing human emotional stuff, *if* you were writing a monograph on it. If you're developing a base out of which you'll be jumping to understand a particular person/character/type of people/whatever, you only discuss what is relevant and similar.
Do you even remember what we're talking about? Or did you just fixate yourself on this notion of being excluded, and went to war for it?
(frozen comment) MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and education
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)Now I think we can both agree that neither of us is strictly speaking totally *right* about our own interpretations and feelings of plausibility in terms of what Danny Rand thinks or understands, if only because Iron Fist was written by a bunch of people who didn't bother to patch half the damn holes in the plot or worldbuilding and also because he's incredibly incurious and weird. Or maybe we're both right. Or maybe S2 will decide to show this motherfucker reading James Joyce because MCU lives to torment its fans, or something.
(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)Have a nice day. Let me know when you write your PhD on human psychology, mine is almost done.
(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)If that's all, yes, have a good day. Let's not repeat this.
(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: MODCALLRe: To people who watched Iron Fist: A Very Important Question about Danny Rand and educa
(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)Thank God for that.