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I was thinking about Waid's runs! Thanks for the rec. What do you mean about the tone?

I rly like the quasi-realism of the show and I've always gotten the impression that comics DD was more... comicky?

same anon;
Mostly I mean that during Waid's run Matt is in a very different place in his life. While he is fundamentally the same person as TV!Matt he's had a longer/different history and some Bad Shit's gone down in his life that he's dealing with. Matt reacts to things differently, and not only that he's got a different context to react to (his reality is very different from the mcu and from our reality).
So Matt's going to read as a different person in some ways in comparison to TV!Matt

Not only that but the way Waid, Samnee & the various colourists represent the reality. In comparison to the show, and to previous comics, volumes 3 & 4 are much brighter & features stronger bolder linework separating objects and space. This forces the audience to view the story/reality in a different way (eg; while there is violence & horror in these comics I don't view it as... strongly/darkly as i might in other comics or the tv show???).

So DD v3 & 4 are comicky, but I don't think that that works against them in a way that 'not realistic' might suggest. I would actually say that by the creative team embracing a comic book medium, they have allowed for a more natural representation of the reality that comics!Matt experiences. The thoughts, actions and feelings of the characters and world come across very clearly and understandably. (and for me that's at the crux of a 'realistic' media. Not by how I can compare it to my reality. But how easily I can understand the rules that underpin the fictional reality and the consistency with which concepts and personalities are presented)

Idk.. if this is clear at all... or even relevant to what u were asking/saying. Sorry lol. I just love talking about comics and adaptations im so interested in that.

Daredevil has traditionally been quite dark in tone, at least for the last couple of decades. There's a lot of death and psychological breakdowns in Matt's past. Waid's version is a lot lighter, and the art is a lot lighter too.

i.e Take this cover from very recently

http://houseofflyingscalpels.com/2015/05/02/cover-of-the-week-294-daredevil-15-by-chris-samnee-matt-wilson/

And compare it to stuff like

https://markbertolini.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/alex-maleev.jpg
http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/4531109/4.-Brian-Michael-Bendis-and-Alex-Maleev.jpg
http://pelerinli.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/tumblrlgllhduta41qziacgo11280.jpg

Huge difference in tone.

NA, but wow that first cover has my interest. If I wanted to jump in mostly for Kirsten McDuffie, and to understand whatever's going on, where would the best place to start?

I think you'd want to start here:

http://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Vol-1-Mark-Waid/dp/0785152385

Full discloser - I've read the first dozen issues of Mark Waid's run, but it was a while ago and my memory is terrible. So I don't remember when Kirsten McDuffie is introduced, but I think it's near the beginning. Even if she isn't, this is a good starting place. It's great storytelling and wonderful art.

(different anon)

I just checked my copy, and Kirsten is introduced in Waid's very first issue. So yeah, vol 1 is the place to start. It's a great read and Kirsten is a fun character.

Anon who asked where to start: Thank you! I have it and I was in love from the moment they opened with Matt just hanging out on the side of a church. This is the good stuff.

DA- Yay, I'm glad you're enjoying it! There's an issue not too far in with snow and a bus full of kids that just does things to my heart. I think I stopped shortly after that (no particular reason, I'm just in the middle of so many comics) but I really need to pick it up again. I think this will give me the push to do so!

DA

The bus full of kids issue was where I really fell in love with this run. So fantastic.

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