To be blunt, Matt can likely smell periods (though whether he knows it or is just like 'doot doot doot I had terrible sex ed, gosh I wonder why some people smell like old blood sometimes')
Im wondering about how the menstrual product used affects this. At a standard nose-crotch distance* with no variables like leaks or standing next to a perfume store, I assume he could smell a pad, but probably not a cup. I'd like your opinions on tampons. Would their location inside the body bamboozle his super senses, or is mere cotton no match for our hero's olfactory abilities?
*I can't believe that's actually a phrase I used TL;DR: Tampons. Detecting. Can he. Why did this turn out so long and weird
Warning: Don't read on if menstrual stuff squicks you out.
Hm... Well, tampons are designed to keep the blood kinda, well, inside your cervix. So I'm sure that someone using tampons wouldn't smell as blatantly obvious of menstruation as someone using sanitary pads.
On the other hand, yes, I think Matt would still be able to smell it because, heck, I can smell it when I change my tampon. (Granted, at that point it's not inside my cervix anymore, but I still think Matt's sense are acute enough to pick that up.)
As for whether he'd know that women menstruate, hell yes! Come on, he's going on 30 (or even 35?), and he's been with women and been in (admittedly short-lived) relationships. I bet he'd know what that smell is.
Best guess: he has powers as the plot demands and you could make a case for either... Which is not helpful I assume. I think he probably would be if he is sniffing something out...not necessary 'is a woman in my vicinity using tampons atm?' But a general he is searching for sb. or sth. And focusing on the smells specifically.
(Disclaimer: not a comic reader and the explanation of his senses in the show is suboptimal)
He could tell that Foggy washed his face in his kitchen sink and what he ate recently, so yeah I'd say he can definitely smell when someone's on their period.
He could tell that Foggy washed his face in his kitchen sink
Yeah, how did he figure that out?! I always thought maybe he heard it, but then he was asleep/unconscious when Foggy did it. That one kinda had me stumped, to be honest. Unless Foggy used dish washing detergent, but, uh... eww.
Yeah but the water from his bathroom would be exactly the same wouldn't it? So it had to be something like 'the residue in a kitchen sink is different from the one in a bathroom one and you somehow touch them while washing' and he could tell from that?
the simplest explanation is that matt keeps different types of soap by his kitchen and bathroom sinks and that's what he was actually smelling. :D
(i grant you that scented soaps are a highly feminine-coded thing, but i think matt might like having some mildly scented fancy hand/face soaps to act as a slight counterpoint to the general icky smells of a big city.)
THIS. Matt in the more recent comics comes across as a highly feminine-coded character, a point actually discussed by the creators because how were they ever going to sell Matt Murdock moving from NYC to San Francisco with his, uh, partner, and then coming out of the hero closet aaaand decide to wear a 3-piece, obnoxiously red suit that basically made him look like a rent boy while fighting crime? Mark Waid has some cheek on him, that's for sure.
But seriously, Matt in the comics has been shown to love fresh and floral scenty things, so I could buy hand soap, face soap to help cover the smell of NYC tap water (ugh).
Lived in a major city Can confirm everything smells like garbage and hobo pee If I was Matt I'd do diy nose surgery with a bottle rocket to get rid of smell and taste. Yeah I could never enjoy those tiny bbq weenies again or detect a natural gas leak, but I think it's a fair trade
My dog wants to sniff me when I wear tampons but she doesnt even have a job. Matt is a lawyer. smelling genitals is not part of lawyering, he'd be held in contempt.
Blood has always been described as tasting coppery. I'm not sure why. Did someone at some point taste iron, copper, and blood to compare? Obviously, blood is much more than heme, and perhaps the combination of all of its component parts taste more like copper? Clearly someone needs to science so we know.
Damn you, I'd just gotten out of a research spree on bone fractures, now I have like 12 tabs open on metals and taste and blood. My five minutes of googling so far has informed me that copper was discovered earlier, and copper dinnerware goes back a long time.
Really though, I think it's because it stands out. In a sea of vague grayish metals that you weren't paying attention to in history class, copper is the most memorable and recognizable one. I mean shit, look at that fancy ass orange shine. The Statue of Liberty used to be that color! Thats super cool. If you lick an oxidized penny, you are basically tasting the Statue of Liberty, but with less chance of being tasered by security.
I'm taking a crack at the 'Matt being terrible with children' prompts. Not the cute ones. Rn I'm having him antagonize a child soldier, later I'm gonna start with him bruising someone's ribs during a training session and go from there.
OP here- Holy shit this thread is an entire experience. From the speculation on his sniffing abilities, to licking the Statue of Liberty. You guys are the best I'm reworking that plot point based on your suggestions and it's a lot better than what I planned originally
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)Im wondering about how the menstrual product used affects this. At a standard nose-crotch distance* with no variables like leaks or standing next to a perfume store, I assume he could smell a pad, but probably not a cup. I'd like your opinions on tampons.
Would their location inside the body bamboozle his super senses, or is mere cotton no match for our hero's olfactory abilities?
*I can't believe that's actually a phrase I used
TL;DR: Tampons. Detecting. Can he. Why did this turn out so long and weird
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)Hm... Well, tampons are designed to keep the blood kinda, well, inside your cervix. So I'm sure that someone using tampons wouldn't smell as blatantly obvious of menstruation as someone using sanitary pads.
On the other hand, yes, I think Matt would still be able to smell it because, heck, I can smell it when I change my tampon. (Granted, at that point it's not inside my cervix anymore, but I still think Matt's sense are acute enough to pick that up.)
As for whether he'd know that women menstruate, hell yes! Come on, he's going on 30 (or even 35?), and he's been with women and been in (admittedly short-lived) relationships. I bet he'd know what that smell is.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)I think he probably would be if he is sniffing something out...not necessary 'is a woman in my vicinity using tampons atm?' But a general he is searching for sb. or sth. And focusing on the smells specifically.
(Disclaimer: not a comic reader and the explanation of his senses in the show is suboptimal)
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)Matt probably thinks everyone stinks, tbh.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-12 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)Yeah, how did he figure that out?! I always thought maybe he heard it, but then he was asleep/unconscious when Foggy did it. That one kinda had me stumped, to be honest. Unless Foggy used dish washing detergent, but, uh... eww.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)(i grant you that scented soaps are a highly feminine-coded thing, but i think matt might like having some mildly scented fancy hand/face soaps to act as a slight counterpoint to the general icky smells of a big city.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 04:39 am (UTC)(link)But seriously, Matt in the comics has been shown to love fresh and floral scenty things, so I could buy hand soap, face soap to help cover the smell of NYC tap water (ugh).
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-13 04:03 am (UTC)(link)Can confirm everything smells like garbage and hobo pee
If I was Matt I'd do diy nose surgery with a bottle rocket to get rid of smell and taste. Yeah I could never enjoy those tiny bbq weenies again or detect a natural gas leak, but I think it's a fair trade
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 08:52 am (UTC)(link)My five minutes of googling so far has informed me that copper was discovered earlier, and copper dinnerware goes back a long time.
Really though, I think it's because it stands out. In a sea of vague grayish metals that you weren't paying attention to in history class, copper is the most memorable and recognizable one. I mean shit, look at that fancy ass orange shine. The Statue of Liberty used to be that color! Thats super cool. If you lick an oxidized penny, you are basically tasting the Statue of Liberty, but with less chance of being tasered by security.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)BWAHAHAHAHA
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)Also, I feel your pain with the bones. I just broke Matty's everything in a fic I'm working on.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)Same. I'm currently working on a rape recovery fic because someone in the comments made me feel bad for leaving him broken. ^^;
What are you working on?
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 06:00 am (UTC)(link)I'm taking a crack at the 'Matt being terrible with children' prompts. Not the cute ones.
Rn I'm having him antagonize a child soldier, later I'm gonna start with him bruising someone's ribs during a training session and go from there.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-14 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)Holy shit this thread is an entire experience. From the speculation on his sniffing abilities, to licking the Statue of Liberty. You guys are the best
I'm reworking that plot point based on your suggestions and it's a lot better than what I planned originally