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When Foggy and Karen go out to Josie's, he recognises her need to slam a drink back (wee see that again after she kills Wesley) and asks her what's wrong. She doesn't want to talk about it, he presses, and they become very, very good at sharing the hard stuff and a lot of it. You're right, that doesn't manifest out of thin air, and I'm definitely horrified by the way Foggy isn't just good at downing a lot of hard stuff, but that he's good at drinking alone. That's a very specific level of alcohol abuse and he does seem to be quite the pro.

In the podcast interview downthread, Jack Murdock's actor spoke about some level of Jack's alcoholism, that it wasn't overly stated on the show but it was played with, and that Jack self-medicates often. This would mean Matt's been subjected to those binges, and maybe that's one of the reasons he doesn't drink much? Although I think he doesn't drink because it affects him worse than normal people because of his senses. He's a lightweight for a reason.

IA about Matt--and also, I think Matt is just fundamentally a control freak. He works his issues out by beating the shit out of people; the only time we really see him drunk is in that one flashback, where he's (a) happy and (b) in the company of someone he trusts. I don't think he'd be willing to drink heavily in any other circumstances, both because he doesn't trust other people and because he doesn't really trust himself. He's very aware of the kind of violence he's capable of, you know?

I do think some of it's probably physical, but I think a lot of it is just his personality. Foggy doesn't really have the same issues--which is not to say he doesn't have issues, just that they're different ones.

Yessss, I think Matt's hyperaware of people, and how base people can be, maybe especially when they try to hide it. I fully believe his blindness (compounded by how physically attractive he is) is a siren song to the depraved because they [think they] can abuse him in some way. It's so easy to see on the show the way they highlighted his emotional weakness (children/old people/sexually-targeted women) as his Achilles, not just because they were victims, but because he's too close to that label in oh so many ways. It feels like subtext to me the way he's overly emotional when faced with helplessness. Being drunk and out of control would equate to him either losing his shit and doing too much damage on a criminal, or [reverting back to] being a victim himself because his faculties are down. I look at his reactions on the screen and can only imagine he's had it both ways. Ehh, I'm not sure if I'm making sense...

I'm really looking forward to learning more about Foggy's issues and why he drinks so damn much, and why it's a knee-jerk reaction. Show spent so much time exposing every one of Matt's (and Fisk's) raw nerves that we were a little shortchanged on getting everybody else's dirty laundry out into the open.

Yeah, I do kind of find it likely that Matt has been victimized before (even excluding Stick, because what that fucker did was straight-up abuse). He was a young, poor, disabled and traumatized kid who had, after Jack died, basically no adult who gave a damn about him--which makes him a prime target for all kinds of bad people. The fact that the thing that set him off in the first case was child sexual abuse, and that he bypassed threatening the guy to straight-up beat him half to death is...very telling.

The fact that the thing that set him off in the first case was child sexual abuse, and that he bypassed threatening the guy to straight-up beat him half to death is...very telling.

YES, and the way he described it to Foggy, the way he knew the man was smart enough to do it in a way to not leave marks so no one would suspect and the way he... says it? How does that not come off like first-hand experience, is what I'm saying? I can't look at anything from Matt's past without filtering it through his fucked up relationship with Stick, and even as an adult it's STILL a fucked up relationship because one of the first things Stick does is verbally harass and abuse Matt, he physically assaults him (yes, I'm sure it was a test but he's been out of Matt's life for 20 freaking years and this is how he come back into Matt's life?) and puts Matt into the same unbreakable hold he used to use on him as a child? And, auuuuugh, the second Stick asks for a beer Matt smiles and then catches himself so awkwardly. Like even after the verbal and physical shit, he's still happy to see Stick. THE PAIN. MY HEART. GDI, MATT. And I fully expect Stick to come back into Matt's life (next season) and Matt would receive him the same way, with that anger and awkward semi-hopeful smile on his face. Sorry anon, sorry, I think I just made myself angry all over again. Fuck.

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