In the context of the MCU, you can conceivably make up any kind of real 'truth' serum that has any effect.
When it comes to the actual effects of Sodium Thiopental, the actual effects last about a half an hour, and it functions as a depressant of the central nervous system. It induces hypnosis and anesthesia, but not analgesia; in other words, suggestibility, chattiness, and an almost eagerness to please, and the person under its effects likely won't remember it, but it doesn't depress pain itself. Like similar drugs, caution should be used as it depresses respiration and potentially heart rate at higher doses.
It does not induce pure truth, like the films tend to depict. What it does is just release inhibitions, diminish awareness and delay the processing centers of 'do I want to be saying this, is this something that is appropriate to say, who is asking, etc etc.' People can be susceptible to tone and to the way things are asked; keep a positive mood while questioning and the dosed person will probably cheerfully just keep talking and talking, sometimes making up total fabrications or inventing complete stories. Too many suggestions, and someone will just go along with what they are told.
Another option for the story might be Scopolamine, which, like the above, was also used on pregnant women during labor, not as a way to ease the pain, but just to make them forget it. Scopolamine also induces retrograde amnesia, which means you don't remember what happened even before you were injected... this is probably what Karen was given. Mothers in labor were given this so that they wouldn't remember the pain of childbirth, but so that they still experienced it, because of shitty reasons. Scopolamine doesn't induce the same level of chattiness as Sodium Thiopental, but it does cause euphoria and drowsiness, along with that amnesia. The way it works is that it actually prevents memory formation from happening within the brain. Oh, and you can hallucinate and basically lose all of your grip on reality. The more I read about the history and usage of this drug, particularly in maternity wards, the more I am so fucking glad it's not used anymore... that I know of...
Anyway, I would vote that you are well within your rights to stretch the truth and make up your own real truth serum that functions in some other way, simply because you can.
Omg thanks!!! This is actually really interesting to read haha. I might make Foggy do some googling just so I can include a bit of this info :'))) the way I'm writing definitely sounds more like the first one...thanks a lot, this is super helpful <3
Re: truth serum??
(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 02:52 am (UTC)(link)When it comes to the actual effects of Sodium Thiopental, the actual effects last about a half an hour, and it functions as a depressant of the central nervous system. It induces hypnosis and anesthesia, but not analgesia; in other words, suggestibility, chattiness, and an almost eagerness to please, and the person under its effects likely won't remember it, but it doesn't depress pain itself. Like similar drugs, caution should be used as it depresses respiration and potentially heart rate at higher doses.
It does not induce pure truth, like the films tend to depict. What it does is just release inhibitions, diminish awareness and delay the processing centers of 'do I want to be saying this, is this something that is appropriate to say, who is asking, etc etc.' People can be susceptible to tone and to the way things are asked; keep a positive mood while questioning and the dosed person will probably cheerfully just keep talking and talking, sometimes making up total fabrications or inventing complete stories. Too many suggestions, and someone will just go along with what they are told.
Another option for the story might be Scopolamine, which, like the above, was also used on pregnant women during labor, not as a way to ease the pain, but just to make them forget it. Scopolamine also induces retrograde amnesia, which means you don't remember what happened even before you were injected... this is probably what Karen was given. Mothers in labor were given this so that they wouldn't remember the pain of childbirth, but so that they still experienced it, because of shitty reasons. Scopolamine doesn't induce the same level of chattiness as Sodium Thiopental, but it does cause euphoria and drowsiness, along with that amnesia. The way it works is that it actually prevents memory formation from happening within the brain. Oh, and you can hallucinate and basically lose all of your grip on reality. The more I read about the history and usage of this drug, particularly in maternity wards, the more I am so fucking glad it's not used anymore... that I know of...
Anyway, I would vote that you are well within your rights to stretch the truth and make up your own real truth serum that functions in some other way, simply because you can.
Re: truth serum??
(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 08:01 am (UTC)(link)