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i'm having a go at filling a prompt where matt gets injected with truth serum and i'm wondering if anyone knows the answer to this - would matt be freaked out by the fact that he's telling the truth? like, would he say something and be like 'fuck, no, i didn't want to say that'/be visibly unwilling/uncomfortable answering certain questions, or would he not even properly realise what's happening? because i've been writing it as if he's just totally chill, spilling his secrets and whatever, and then suddenly thought...would he actually be this chill...

(or maybe it doesn't matter either way? idk, it's not like i'm using a real serum for reference - it's some magic MCU shit or whatever)

I think you can use whatever rules you want for your fictional truth serum. Of course in his right mind, Matt would be horrified, but if you want the serum could make him relaxed and unaware of what he's doing.

Though I'm wondering if you mean this prompt: http://daredevilkink.dreamwidth.org/1742.html?thread=3705550#cmt3705550

Because that prompt specifically mentions Matt being "smiley and chatty," so I think the way you're writing it (with Matt being chill about it) is what OP wanted.

ah okay, thank you so much! yes it is that prompt. i've just been sort of writing on automatic and then i was like wait, hold up a sec. XD

but that's good then, i'll just keep doing what i'm doing :D thanks!

I don't really know much about drugs, but I know that some sedatives make people really docile/cooperative and sometimes really talkative, although not a lot of what people says makes sense (think of the meds people get for wisdom teeth extraction).

BUT, this is a world were ~chemicals~ gave Matt superpowers, so I don't think people can nitpick too much about truth serum.

Hahaha yeah true. Good ol' nameless chemicals coming the the rescue when you have a plot hole...

Thanks!!

In the context of the MCU, you can conceivably make up any kind of real 'truth' serum that has any effect.

When it comes to the actual effects of Sodium Thiopental, the actual effects last about a half an hour, and it functions as a depressant of the central nervous system. It induces hypnosis and anesthesia, but not analgesia; in other words, suggestibility, chattiness, and an almost eagerness to please, and the person under its effects likely won't remember it, but it doesn't depress pain itself. Like similar drugs, caution should be used as it depresses respiration and potentially heart rate at higher doses.

It does not induce pure truth, like the films tend to depict. What it does is just release inhibitions, diminish awareness and delay the processing centers of 'do I want to be saying this, is this something that is appropriate to say, who is asking, etc etc.' People can be susceptible to tone and to the way things are asked; keep a positive mood while questioning and the dosed person will probably cheerfully just keep talking and talking, sometimes making up total fabrications or inventing complete stories. Too many suggestions, and someone will just go along with what they are told.

Another option for the story might be Scopolamine, which, like the above, was also used on pregnant women during labor, not as a way to ease the pain, but just to make them forget it. Scopolamine also induces retrograde amnesia, which means you don't remember what happened even before you were injected... this is probably what Karen was given. Mothers in labor were given this so that they wouldn't remember the pain of childbirth, but so that they still experienced it, because of shitty reasons. Scopolamine doesn't induce the same level of chattiness as Sodium Thiopental, but it does cause euphoria and drowsiness, along with that amnesia. The way it works is that it actually prevents memory formation from happening within the brain. Oh, and you can hallucinate and basically lose all of your grip on reality. The more I read about the history and usage of this drug, particularly in maternity wards, the more I am so fucking glad it's not used anymore... that I know of...

Anyway, I would vote that you are well within your rights to stretch the truth and make up your own real truth serum that functions in some other way, simply because you can.

Omg thanks!!! This is actually really interesting to read haha. I might make Foggy do some googling just so I can include a bit of this info :'))) the way I'm writing definitely sounds more like the first one...thanks a lot, this is super helpful <3

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