But see, that's the thing. People complain subtly here, and then complain loudly over on their Tumblr, and it's like... we're a small fandom, y'know? I'm pretty sure we all follow each other on Tumblr. So you pair the type of discussions that happen here with the outright disdain on Tumblr and you start to get the full picture.
(I mean, people have the right to complain, I know that. I'm just trying to explain how people might've reached the conclusion that some of the comments here carry a subtle hostility toward a certain kink and certain authors who are writing those fics)
Personally, I'd rather know if that was actually happening or if it was just an exaggeration of a perceived insult. If it was an actual insult, yeah, okay, point taken. If not, well, it wouldn't be the first time someone has admitted to blowing things out of proportion in this thread.
Seriously though, I think "reached the conclusion" is the key phrase here. Ya'll are making serious assumptions about malicious intent. It's a defensive reflex, okay, but it's wrong. Which others have tried to explain but all that seems to be getting across to the other side is that non-slavefic fans are being passive-agressive in their hate. Which, no.
(and let's be real, okay, there's probably no such thing as a purely non-slavefic fan on this meme anymore for the simple reason that there has been nothing else to read for a while. <--- and that is said with ZERO hostility, because we all know by this point how crap we all are at reading tone online.)
To be fair to the slavefic people, I think they were initially defensive but wanted to know why people seemed to have an issue as much as everyone else was curious who they were.
And they have been taking all this in fairly well. Even today I saw trigger warnings added to a fill.
Yay to this meme, where what could easily be wank turns out to actually be an interesting and thought-provoking conversation where everyone understands each other better.
Three cheers for us! Rational thought and discourse win! (With added fun analogies).
So really I suspect we've all just been misunderstanding the root of the problem. I feel like the people who initially they were bristling towards have now been understood as not malicious and vice versa.
This is 100% the least wanky meme I've ever been on and I'm actually glad I said something about all of this.
Like, goddamn, meme, now I'm getting fuzzy feels from how much I appreciate this place. Pretty much every other meme (apart from the hydra trash meme) would have had so much more wank and it would have turned really personal. But now there's constructive change.
Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 12:38 am (UTC)(link)(I mean, people have the right to complain, I know that. I'm just trying to explain how people might've reached the conclusion that some of the comments here carry a subtle hostility toward a certain kink and certain authors who are writing those fics)
Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 12:42 am (UTC)(link)Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 04:53 am (UTC)(link)Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 05:00 am (UTC)(link)Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)(and let's be real, okay, there's probably no such thing as a purely non-slavefic fan on this meme anymore for the simple reason that there has been nothing else to read for a while. <--- and that is said with ZERO hostility, because we all know by this point how crap we all are at reading tone online.)
Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 02:31 am (UTC)(link)And they have been taking all this in fairly well. Even today I saw trigger warnings added to a fill.
Yay to this meme, where what could easily be wank turns out to actually be an interesting and thought-provoking conversation where everyone understands each other better.
Three cheers for us! Rational thought and discourse win! (With added fun analogies).
So really I suspect we've all just been misunderstanding the root of the problem. I feel like the people who initially they were bristling towards have now been understood as not malicious and vice versa.
Re: Foggy rapes Matt???
(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)Like, goddamn, meme, now I'm getting fuzzy feels from how much I appreciate this place. Pretty much every other meme (apart from the hydra trash meme) would have had so much more wank and it would have turned really personal. But now there's constructive change.