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ayrt - YAY! I've been away a little longer than expected and came back to allll the insights! Ah my god, you're awesome. Nooo, don't say your comment is long, you'll give me anxiety because I'm wordswords wordy.
First, smutty fanworks are the best. God bless fandom because there's so many smutty fanworks happening at the mo, we're blessed by all the little porny gods.
Maybe the best thing about Matt is that he's the closest-to-unpowered superhero on the map. TBH I'm a big enough shameless perve that I like that he has no super strength because I'm very fond of the manhandling, and he gets manhandled all the damn time. I love that it doesn't stop him from defending his city, though. Slow him down, maybe, but doesn't stop him. Bring on S2 with more manhandling and apparently Frank Castle chaining Matt down, unf.
YES, that scene with Claire! I'm a little discomfited that she brought out the L word so fast. I mean, they barely knew each other, they've shared one kiss, and even though the attraction is there I was surprised as Matt when Claire says she couldn't fall in love with him. But Matt's cold 'you shouldn't' as he walks away, augh! No Matt noooo, tell people you care about them before you end up dead in a trash bin!
I'm down with Wilson and Vanessa, too. I think they're made for each other in a really amazing/frightening power couple way. In the comics Vanessa and Matt end up having a really weird respectful frienemy type relationship where Vanessa regards Matt sort of like The Other Woman in Fisk's life. Fisk is so obsessed with Matt/DD that she blames her marriage problems on Matt. I'm seriously hoping something like that shows up in S2 lol.
I barely noticed there is a Wilson/Vanessa moment that mirrors Matt and Karen later. When Vanessa admits she has a gun in her bag (I like that Vanessa and Karen both know firearms - these are not defenceless women), she dares Fisk to keep lying to her about who he is, what he does. 'I know you're a dangerous man.' 'Do you want to leave?' But she stays knowing exactly who Wilson Fisk is and she becomes his counterbalance, they become a team.
Karen tells Matt later she thinks she made a mistake by coming to work for Nelson & Murdock and Matt asks her if she wants to leave and she says no. Karen does mirror Matt in so many ways, and they're both dangerous just like Wilson and Vanessa. Vanessa says she won't let anyone take Wilson away from her, and Karen kills Wesley when he threatens to go after Matt (and Foggy). I am honest to god dying to see S2 and find out whether Karen finds out about Matt being DD and whether the avocados find out about Karen killing Wesley.
First, smutty fanworks are the best. God bless fandom because there's so many smutty fanworks happening at the mo, we're blessed by all the little porny gods.
Maybe the best thing about Matt is that he's the closest-to-unpowered superhero on the map. TBH I'm a big enough shameless perve that I like that he has no super strength because I'm very fond of the manhandling, and he gets manhandled all the damn time. I love that it doesn't stop him from defending his city, though. Slow him down, maybe, but doesn't stop him. Bring on S2 with more manhandling and apparently Frank Castle chaining Matt down, unf.
YES, that scene with Claire! I'm a little discomfited that she brought out the L word so fast. I mean, they barely knew each other, they've shared one kiss, and even though the attraction is there I was surprised as Matt when Claire says she couldn't fall in love with him. But Matt's cold 'you shouldn't' as he walks away, augh! No Matt noooo, tell people you care about them before you end up dead in a trash bin!
I'm down with Wilson and Vanessa, too. I think they're made for each other in a really amazing/frightening power couple way. In the comics Vanessa and Matt end up having a really weird respectful frienemy type relationship where Vanessa regards Matt sort of like The Other Woman in Fisk's life. Fisk is so obsessed with Matt/DD that she blames her marriage problems on Matt. I'm seriously hoping something like that shows up in S2 lol.
I barely noticed there is a Wilson/Vanessa moment that mirrors Matt and Karen later. When Vanessa admits she has a gun in her bag (I like that Vanessa and Karen both know firearms - these are not defenceless women), she dares Fisk to keep lying to her about who he is, what he does. 'I know you're a dangerous man.' 'Do you want to leave?' But she stays knowing exactly who Wilson Fisk is and she becomes his counterbalance, they become a team.
Karen tells Matt later she thinks she made a mistake by coming to work for Nelson & Murdock and Matt asks her if she wants to leave and she says no. Karen does mirror Matt in so many ways, and they're both dangerous just like Wilson and Vanessa. Vanessa says she won't let anyone take Wilson away from her, and Karen kills Wesley when he threatens to go after Matt (and Foggy). I am honest to god dying to see S2 and find out whether Karen finds out about Matt being DD and whether the avocados find out about Karen killing Wesley.
Welcome back! <333 And okay! We shall be super-wordy together then. :D
Oh my god yes, the manhandling!! I love that. It was so wonderfully gratuitous in the famous hallway fight. And I could sing praises all day about how lovely Matt looks when he's beaten up. He gets knocked down, but hell yeah does he get back up again. And yeah, I'm super excited for all the fic that scene with the chains is gonna generate ^^;
I found it a bit jarring that Claire brought it up so soon too, but not gonna lie, it still tore me up so bad. It just hurts thinking about all the lost potential between them, you know? And it looked like Claire was really hoping for a different response from Matt, but with Matt accepting it like that, it was kind of like a sign to her that... yeah, their relationship just wouldn't work out, no matter how much they might've both wanted it.
Speaking of Matt and his loved ones, I loved that line he had with Karen after the run-in with Gao - his breaking-point realization that he can't do things alone. It felt like such a big character moment. I hope they keep going with it in S2.
The way the Vanessa/Fisk/Matt dynamic works in the comics, omg. I haven't read all of them, but Matt as The Other Woman is exactly what it's like. Isn't there a whole conversation where Matt confronts Fisk about how they're responsible for ruining Vanessa's marriage/life? Anyway, with the cast we have going for S2, I'm kinda sad that Vanessa and Fisk don't seem to be returning in any prominent way, because they were absolutely brilliant.
I hadn't noticed that parallel with Vanessa and Karen! Nice. But oh mannnn that scene with Karen is heartwrenching. I mean, that entire set of episodes was totally heartwrenching in general - the aftermath of Karen killing Wesley, and Nelson v Murdock, and... wow, when life falls apart for these characters it really falls apart. I felt so awful for Karen too, because she REALLY needs the support of Matt and Foggy who are, as she says, the only good things in her life, but they're in the middle of such a huge falling out that they almost don't notice.
Season 2 speculation time! I'm not sure if Karen will find out about DD (as much as I really, really want it to happen... preferably with her figuring it out herself and a big angsty confrontation and and and... /has half a fic already mentally written) but I definitely think Karen killing Wesley will come up again, with the Punisher on the scene. I'm actually really looking forward to how she responds to the Punisher's type of vigilantism. There are just so many possibilities, what with her mysterious past (that may have involved shooting someone before?) and the investigative angle she'll probably be continuing.
Oh my god yes, the manhandling!! I love that. It was so wonderfully gratuitous in the famous hallway fight. And I could sing praises all day about how lovely Matt looks when he's beaten up. He gets knocked down, but hell yeah does he get back up again. And yeah, I'm super excited for all the fic that scene with the chains is gonna generate ^^;
I found it a bit jarring that Claire brought it up so soon too, but not gonna lie, it still tore me up so bad. It just hurts thinking about all the lost potential between them, you know? And it looked like Claire was really hoping for a different response from Matt, but with Matt accepting it like that, it was kind of like a sign to her that... yeah, their relationship just wouldn't work out, no matter how much they might've both wanted it.
Speaking of Matt and his loved ones, I loved that line he had with Karen after the run-in with Gao - his breaking-point realization that he can't do things alone. It felt like such a big character moment. I hope they keep going with it in S2.
The way the Vanessa/Fisk/Matt dynamic works in the comics, omg. I haven't read all of them, but Matt as The Other Woman is exactly what it's like. Isn't there a whole conversation where Matt confronts Fisk about how they're responsible for ruining Vanessa's marriage/life? Anyway, with the cast we have going for S2, I'm kinda sad that Vanessa and Fisk don't seem to be returning in any prominent way, because they were absolutely brilliant.
I hadn't noticed that parallel with Vanessa and Karen! Nice. But oh mannnn that scene with Karen is heartwrenching. I mean, that entire set of episodes was totally heartwrenching in general - the aftermath of Karen killing Wesley, and Nelson v Murdock, and... wow, when life falls apart for these characters it really falls apart. I felt so awful for Karen too, because she REALLY needs the support of Matt and Foggy who are, as she says, the only good things in her life, but they're in the middle of such a huge falling out that they almost don't notice.
Season 2 speculation time! I'm not sure if Karen will find out about DD (as much as I really, really want it to happen... preferably with her figuring it out herself and a big angsty confrontation and and and... /has half a fic already mentally written) but I definitely think Karen killing Wesley will come up again, with the Punisher on the scene. I'm actually really looking forward to how she responds to the Punisher's type of vigilantism. There are just so many possibilities, what with her mysterious past (that may have involved shooting someone before?) and the investigative angle she'll probably be continuing.
from the previous thread I saw many of you are around my age (I'm 27) and, Idk, maybe there is some grad stud as well who'd like to share some infos to another grad student here..
to those of you who have experience in writing a thesis or something like that, do you think it's possibile to write like 30%, 40% of your thesis in less than a week??
how do you motivate yourself when all you see is papers that you hate, taht you have just skimmed through and which also are not in your native language?
I'm 100% lost. and I wanna graduate but I'm so fed up
to those of you who have experience in writing a thesis or something like that, do you think it's possibile to write like 30%, 40% of your thesis in less than a week??
how do you motivate yourself when all you see is papers that you hate, taht you have just skimmed through and which also are not in your native language?
I'm 100% lost. and I wanna graduate but I'm so fed up
i just remembered how much i love matt murdock and needed to share
/whoops anon-failed. Carry on everyone, nothing to see here.
First up, lemme offer you a hug. *hugs* Second, yes, it is possible to write not just 40%, but an entire thesis in a week, as long as you adjust your expectations accordingly -- in other words, it's gonna be dog shit, but you'll get it done and that's the most important thing of all.
(Of course, your thesis isn't shit because you wrote it in a week. It's shit because you waited until there's one week left to do it.)
Once you accept that, pretty much stream-of-consciousness, mind-straight-to-paper
stuff from then on. Look at your outline, do you know what goes where? If you do, put it
in, if you don't, say fuck it and skip. Fill, skip, fill, skip, repeat till the end, then double back. It's dog shit, remember? You hate it, you're just shoveling from one shit pile to another. Look at this disgusting paper not in your mother tongue and is 2000 pages too long, who the hell reads this stuff, just skim. Get what you need and get the hell out, nobody cares, nobody's gonna read it anyway. They're gonna take one look and say, "Oh god, it's one of those!" This work of shame is all yours, buddy.
Repeat this "fill, skip, double back" process until submission day, or until there's nothing left to skip or fill (or edit, but I doubt you'll have that much time.) Submit. Congrats you wrote a thesis, go have a drink and don't come back before 3AM.
(The point, of course, is to lower your expectation, which is 99.9% of why you
procrastinate. You want great result but you hate the work needed to put into it. That's fine, we've all been there. Your goal now is not writing an amazing thesis that will blow the board's tiny little minds -- you just need to write a thesis. Once done with the first "fill, skip" round, you'll find you actually have time to go back and add or change things, which will calm you down, and you have an idea of where you are, plus some sense of accomplishment. At least now you're getting somewhere. Then just keep going.)
And, totally not speaking from experience, *ahemhem*, but people can see a good idea even when it's just a skeleton patched with bits of skin, ya know? Filling in the meat is daunting, but as long as the structure looks coherent, you'll be judged more favorably than if you submitted an ambitious, flowery yet incomprehensible mess. Or worse, a very beautiful, very well-built bust, with the rest of the body missing.
First up, lemme offer you a hug. *hugs* Second, yes, it is possible to write not just 40%, but an entire thesis in a week, as long as you adjust your expectations accordingly -- in other words, it's gonna be dog shit, but you'll get it done and that's the most important thing of all.
(Of course, your thesis isn't shit because you wrote it in a week. It's shit because you waited until there's one week left to do it.)
Once you accept that, pretty much stream-of-consciousness, mind-straight-to-paper
stuff from then on. Look at your outline, do you know what goes where? If you do, put it
in, if you don't, say fuck it and skip. Fill, skip, fill, skip, repeat till the end, then double back. It's dog shit, remember? You hate it, you're just shoveling from one shit pile to another. Look at this disgusting paper not in your mother tongue and is 2000 pages too long, who the hell reads this stuff, just skim. Get what you need and get the hell out, nobody cares, nobody's gonna read it anyway. They're gonna take one look and say, "Oh god, it's one of those!" This work of shame is all yours, buddy.
Repeat this "fill, skip, double back" process until submission day, or until there's nothing left to skip or fill (or edit, but I doubt you'll have that much time.) Submit. Congrats you wrote a thesis, go have a drink and don't come back before 3AM.
(The point, of course, is to lower your expectation, which is 99.9% of why you
procrastinate. You want great result but you hate the work needed to put into it. That's fine, we've all been there. Your goal now is not writing an amazing thesis that will blow the board's tiny little minds -- you just need to write a thesis. Once done with the first "fill, skip" round, you'll find you actually have time to go back and add or change things, which will calm you down, and you have an idea of where you are, plus some sense of accomplishment. At least now you're getting somewhere. Then just keep going.)
And, totally not speaking from experience, *ahemhem*, but people can see a good idea even when it's just a skeleton patched with bits of skin, ya know? Filling in the meat is daunting, but as long as the structure looks coherent, you'll be judged more favorably than if you submitted an ambitious, flowery yet incomprehensible mess. Or worse, a very beautiful, very well-built bust, with the rest of the body missing.
Exactly what's on the tin.
Watching Daredevil for the first time and without anywhere to flail
(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 12:01 am (UTC)(link)So I am hugely behind the times, here, and have only just started watching Daredevil; I've somehow managed to stay pretty unspoiled due to not having friends who are into this sort of thing in close proximity, but this also means that I am now without anywhere to talk about the fact that I am now watching and loving it. So I came here, on the basis that I can easily be ignored and so hopefully shouldn't annoy anyone, and maybe somebody might appreciate my incoherent rambles!
I've just finished episode 5 (World on Fire) and, wow, I wasn't expecting huge numbers of explosions at the end of that episode, that's for sure! They did have the major plus of interrupting that supremely awkward 'touch my face' thing, so I'm on board for that - I was also super on board for Karen and Foggy jaunting around lawyering and fixing people's sinks, but that dinner was getting kind of uncomfortable. It was an episode of weird and uncomfortable dinners, now I think about it, because I don't know how I feel about the Fisk and Vanessa thing, but it was kind of making me cringe.
Actually, I would be up for more lawyering (and, hey, fixing people's sinks), because I do like people being good at their jobs. And sticking it to the corporations, I'm a fan of that too. Also more Karen. And more Ben! I am always up for the plucky investigative journalist. These two need to shenanigan around together more, clearly, and find out Useful Things and expose Fisk. And maybe not buy anymore extra office equipment, though I am pretty entertained about Karen's 'I tried to blend in at an auction and have a job lot of phones!'. Undercover work is hard.
(Though, what on earth is going on with Ben's mysteriously ill wife? What does she have? Is it lethal? I'm pretty sure that's not how hospitals work?)
On the note of hospitals, I am currently deeply concerned that Claire has lost her job for not being at work in an... undefinable amount of time. How much time has passed? A bunch of the episodes seem to be happening close together, but on the other hand there was enough time for Bowling Ball Man to get arrested and his case to go to trial, so there must have been a few months in there. I am concerned about her ability to continue paying the bills. I love Claire (also, HI Rosario Dawson! I am always happy to encounter you in things) and am majorly impressed by her patience and ability to not bat an eyelid, pretty much, when weirdos bleed all over her furniture. Good job Claire, please stay safe (and keep your job. Also, maybe get some more friends?).
Bill paying ability concerns me about most of the characters, actually. Okay, so Karen has just been given money from her ex-corrupt employers, but surely Matt and Foggy must be up to their eyeballs in student loans? Unless they are secretly wealthy (which, I don't see 'my mom wanted me to be a butcher' as coming from a wealthy background, though it would be hilarious if Foggy's mum was all about 'truly being one of the common people!' or something while contemplating which of her mansions to spend the weekend in. I guess Matt maybe got a massive insurance payout from having toxic chemicals dumped on him or his dad was actually making ridiculously amounts of money with his fights, but this all seems kind of unusual really) they need some more clients ASAP. I don't think Mysteriously Large Checks from People Mysteriously Working For The Bad Guy are going to last for that long (...actually, does this whole thing come up again? I hope it does)
ANYWAY, sorry for flailing my incoherent rambles over the anon meme - I shall hopefully repay you all at some point with fic - I shall now return to actually watching and see what the next episode brings! (I'm guessing nothing good for Remaining-Sort-Of-Inept-Bad-Guy-Russian-Gangster-Type, who is having a seriously shitty day, it must be said).
I've just finished episode 5 (World on Fire) and, wow, I wasn't expecting huge numbers of explosions at the end of that episode, that's for sure! They did have the major plus of interrupting that supremely awkward 'touch my face' thing, so I'm on board for that - I was also super on board for Karen and Foggy jaunting around lawyering and fixing people's sinks, but that dinner was getting kind of uncomfortable. It was an episode of weird and uncomfortable dinners, now I think about it, because I don't know how I feel about the Fisk and Vanessa thing, but it was kind of making me cringe.
Actually, I would be up for more lawyering (and, hey, fixing people's sinks), because I do like people being good at their jobs. And sticking it to the corporations, I'm a fan of that too. Also more Karen. And more Ben! I am always up for the plucky investigative journalist. These two need to shenanigan around together more, clearly, and find out Useful Things and expose Fisk. And maybe not buy anymore extra office equipment, though I am pretty entertained about Karen's 'I tried to blend in at an auction and have a job lot of phones!'. Undercover work is hard.
(Though, what on earth is going on with Ben's mysteriously ill wife? What does she have? Is it lethal? I'm pretty sure that's not how hospitals work?)
On the note of hospitals, I am currently deeply concerned that Claire has lost her job for not being at work in an... undefinable amount of time. How much time has passed? A bunch of the episodes seem to be happening close together, but on the other hand there was enough time for Bowling Ball Man to get arrested and his case to go to trial, so there must have been a few months in there. I am concerned about her ability to continue paying the bills. I love Claire (also, HI Rosario Dawson! I am always happy to encounter you in things) and am majorly impressed by her patience and ability to not bat an eyelid, pretty much, when weirdos bleed all over her furniture. Good job Claire, please stay safe (and keep your job. Also, maybe get some more friends?).
Bill paying ability concerns me about most of the characters, actually. Okay, so Karen has just been given money from her ex-corrupt employers, but surely Matt and Foggy must be up to their eyeballs in student loans? Unless they are secretly wealthy (which, I don't see 'my mom wanted me to be a butcher' as coming from a wealthy background, though it would be hilarious if Foggy's mum was all about 'truly being one of the common people!' or something while contemplating which of her mansions to spend the weekend in. I guess Matt maybe got a massive insurance payout from having toxic chemicals dumped on him or his dad was actually making ridiculously amounts of money with his fights, but this all seems kind of unusual really) they need some more clients ASAP. I don't think Mysteriously Large Checks from People Mysteriously Working For The Bad Guy are going to last for that long (...actually, does this whole thing come up again? I hope it does)
ANYWAY, sorry for flailing my incoherent rambles over the anon meme - I shall hopefully repay you all at some point with fic - I shall now return to actually watching and see what the next episode brings! (I'm guessing nothing good for Remaining-Sort-Of-Inept-Bad-Guy-Russian-Gangster-Type, who is having a seriously shitty day, it must be said).
Re: Watching Daredevil for the first time and without anywhere to flail
(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 12:36 am (UTC)(link)ahahahah, I'd LOVE a fic where it would be like this, Foggy's mom just this completely out-of-touch rich woman who fantasizes about her son learning a trade and being all *rustic* and *real*, and it's driving Foggy NUTS XDDDD
(NAYRT, but this is great advice. I'm not at the level of doing a thesis yet but I'm definitely going to keep it in mind when my academic life needs a kick in the ass.)
Re: Watching Daredevil for the first time and without anywhere to flail
(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 01:41 am (UTC)(link)And then he goes off and becomes a lawyer and she's eternally disapointed, because "There's SEVEN lawyers in the family already, son, why couldn't you break out of the mould? Get out into the real world! Get your hands dirty! Do something truly meaningful with your life!"
Oh cripes. Only five? Harsh. But alrighty then, here's the rankings for today (but ask me again next week and I'll probably have a whole different list; damn this fandom is talented, I love you all).
5. Marci Stahl, Avocado at Law (marci/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/3956800
Post-S1, Marci starts working at Nelson & Murdock. It's a very natural continuation of where the series left off, and there's a lot of character development on all sides. This is the fic that made me love Marci.
4. staying up to hear the show (warning: non-con, fisk/matt)
archiveofourown.org/works/4230672
Matt is thrown into prison and shares a cell with Fisk. It's written from a very interesting POV and is absolutely brutal. I also love all the other fics inspired by this and the original prompt (they're linked at the end of the fic).
3. jump, check parachute (matt/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/3836875
Some good old-fashioned friends-with-benefits getting-together lowkey-pining fic for Matt and Foggy, set during the law school era. It's a lovely fic with a mix of fluff and angst that is very, very rereadable (I can't even count how many times I've reread it!).
2. what you are in the dark (gen)
archiveofourown.org/works/4782251
Foggy brings Matt back from the dead, and everything is terrifying. This is exactly my favourite style of slow-burn horror - the feeling that something is wrong but you just don't know what, and the growing darkness and creepiness throughout the whole thing.
1. All Our Yesteryears (kirsten/matt, one-sided matt/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/4285893
Foggy gets hurt because of Daredevil and leaves New York, but returns six years later. This fic is just full-on angst city and absolutely does not pull its punches, and it is beautiful. It's also great at smoothly incorporating comics elements without being overwhelming. I love how natural all the characters feel, and how despite all the heartbreaking moments, there's a little thread of optimism and hope for rebuilding throughout everything. It's amazing, seriously.
+1 because I just can't resist and because I'm a cheat:
The Process of Getting It (jennifer walters/matt, hint of luke/matt)
archiveofourown.org/works/5430362
Beautifully fluffy, utterly adorable, incredibly hot fic where lawyer!She-Hulk gets together with lawyer!Daredevil and everything is perfect. SO much fun to read. <3
General recs for authors I love, who I couldn't quite fit on the list, also here because I'm a cheat:
marmolita, who writes some of my all-time favourite fic of the pornier variety.
ChuckleVoodoos, supreme deity of all Matt/Foggy AUs.
returnsandreturns, whose fluff is just the cutest omg(!).
poisonivory, writes some nice Matt/Foggy getting-together fic and some nice AUs too.
lady_ragnell, who also writes some amazing Matt/Foggy.
5. Marci Stahl, Avocado at Law (marci/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/3956800
Post-S1, Marci starts working at Nelson & Murdock. It's a very natural continuation of where the series left off, and there's a lot of character development on all sides. This is the fic that made me love Marci.
4. staying up to hear the show (warning: non-con, fisk/matt)
archiveofourown.org/works/4230672
Matt is thrown into prison and shares a cell with Fisk. It's written from a very interesting POV and is absolutely brutal. I also love all the other fics inspired by this and the original prompt (they're linked at the end of the fic).
3. jump, check parachute (matt/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/3836875
Some good old-fashioned friends-with-benefits getting-together lowkey-pining fic for Matt and Foggy, set during the law school era. It's a lovely fic with a mix of fluff and angst that is very, very rereadable (I can't even count how many times I've reread it!).
2. what you are in the dark (gen)
archiveofourown.org/works/4782251
Foggy brings Matt back from the dead, and everything is terrifying. This is exactly my favourite style of slow-burn horror - the feeling that something is wrong but you just don't know what, and the growing darkness and creepiness throughout the whole thing.
1. All Our Yesteryears (kirsten/matt, one-sided matt/foggy)
archiveofourown.org/works/4285893
Foggy gets hurt because of Daredevil and leaves New York, but returns six years later. This fic is just full-on angst city and absolutely does not pull its punches, and it is beautiful. It's also great at smoothly incorporating comics elements without being overwhelming. I love how natural all the characters feel, and how despite all the heartbreaking moments, there's a little thread of optimism and hope for rebuilding throughout everything. It's amazing, seriously.
+1 because I just can't resist and because I'm a cheat:
The Process of Getting It (jennifer walters/matt, hint of luke/matt)
archiveofourown.org/works/5430362
Beautifully fluffy, utterly adorable, incredibly hot fic where lawyer!She-Hulk gets together with lawyer!Daredevil and everything is perfect. SO much fun to read. <3
General recs for authors I love, who I couldn't quite fit on the list, also here because I'm a cheat:
marmolita, who writes some of my all-time favourite fic of the pornier variety.
ChuckleVoodoos, supreme deity of all Matt/Foggy AUs.
returnsandreturns, whose fluff is just the cutest omg(!).
poisonivory, writes some nice Matt/Foggy getting-together fic and some nice AUs too.
lady_ragnell, who also writes some amazing Matt/Foggy.
Yo! I'm super jazzed when I come back in here and read your comments. Like, you don't even KNOW, but thanks for being such an awesome KMer!
The thing with Claire was bittersweet. See, I adored Claire SO MUCH... ok, full disclosure: Thing is, I'm such a hardcore comics fan that I came into the series with a bias against Karen because of how badly her characterisation had been handled in the comics. All my disgust should have been aimed at the writers, I know, but I still had that little something where I just want Matt and Karen as far apart as possible. And the Karen in the series is SO MUCH BETTER than comics Karen, so much better. They're obviously related, and MCU Karen does some things in the series that make me seethe (every character pisses me off at least once), but mostly I really loved and appreciated MCU Karen and tried my best to accept her at face value. I failed a tiny bit, but I tried, and during the rewatchings I'm really starting to love Karen Page the way they intended.
Claire, otoh, was fresh and new and bright and shiny and FFS kinda perfect for Matt? I mean, if we're discounting all the other Matt pairings, Claire and Matt could've been so goooood together. Claire even has some dark edges, too, and I liked that! But no, they wouldn't have worked out. Claire crying as she watches Matt leave? NO. Matt basically telling Claire bye forever on the phone and her scared voice calling for him and the line is dead? GDI, MY HEART. STOP. Even if they tried, really tried, no I don't think they'd have worked out.
Because Matt, idek, Matt has so many of his own issues to deal with, he's still so broken in so many jagged ways and none of that is his fault but he's embraced it for so long, he doesn't know how to let people love him in a healthy way. One of his defining characteristics in the comics is he wants to be loved so damned badly... by someone, I suspect he'd accept almost anybody if they sold him on it, that when people are attracted to him even if it's just sexually it's like... he latches onto that but in the wrong ways. Like he can only love himself through other people's eyes. If he doesn't have anyone to love him (god bless Foggy, I swear), he just doesn't do well, his self-worth is too cataclysmically damaged. And ultimately he cycles through that whole 'it didn't work out' thing with his partners because he's always looking for the wrong thing in people. He tries, lord knows he tries, but he just... wants to be wanted so much, and maybe the closest he ever finds are those daddy figures (like Ben Urich in the comics) or the ones who want all the control in the relationship and it comes across to Matt as care/love (Elektra and arguably Frank Castle). I adore Matt, he's such a fabulous character, and kinda perfect for fandom considering he's basically a very pretty mosaic of broken bits. Nice fuel for so much fiction.
Oh! Oh! I would be very happy if Fisk and Vanessa would return in S2. VERY HAPPY. (lmk if you want spoilers regarding s2 *cough* because I can help with that.)
S2 speculation! *rubs hands together gleefully* The very best decision S1 gave me was letting Foggy know that Matt=DD before Karen (opposite of the comics). That said, I want Karen on board now! I want them to be a legit team against the world! I want Matt to have proper support like any real superhero! And I really, really don't want Karen (or even Elektra) to be killed by Bullseye in S2. I will be super pissed.
But yes, I do think Karen killing Wesley will be addressed in S2. I kinda think Karen will be on board with Frank's style of punishment (kill em allll! dooo eeeet!) and Foggy will stick to his NO KILL, KILL BAD, and they're going to be the proverbial angel and devil on Matt's shoulder when he starts to question himself again and whether he's doing the right thing. (Is there even a chance in this MCU that DD would ever turn into the Punisher? I mean seriously? I don't think so. I like that they're toying with it, I want everybody to act the hell out of it, I want to watch Matt be swayed by Frank Castle a little bit at least, I want Frank to break out the rubber bullets because Matt asks him to not kill just this one time, but I still don't think Marvel is ever going to allow Matt Murdock to be a stone cold killer or allow the Punisher to ever show mercy against Bigger Bads.) Now, considering The Punisher is getting his own series (omgomgomg), he and Matt would have to come to some sort of uneasy alliance eventually. Frank has to be accepted as a legit murderous antihero while DD has to be allowed to remain the angelic blind dude dressed like the devil who defends his city. TBH I'm almost expecting Matt to be swayed more by Karen to Frank's way of thinking, especially if Matt is coming to really love Karen in S2, because Matt never thinks clearly when his heart is involved. And considering Karen is already a killer, well.
The thing with Claire was bittersweet. See, I adored Claire SO MUCH... ok, full disclosure: Thing is, I'm such a hardcore comics fan that I came into the series with a bias against Karen because of how badly her characterisation had been handled in the comics. All my disgust should have been aimed at the writers, I know, but I still had that little something where I just want Matt and Karen as far apart as possible. And the Karen in the series is SO MUCH BETTER than comics Karen, so much better. They're obviously related, and MCU Karen does some things in the series that make me seethe (every character pisses me off at least once), but mostly I really loved and appreciated MCU Karen and tried my best to accept her at face value. I failed a tiny bit, but I tried, and during the rewatchings I'm really starting to love Karen Page the way they intended.
Claire, otoh, was fresh and new and bright and shiny and FFS kinda perfect for Matt? I mean, if we're discounting all the other Matt pairings, Claire and Matt could've been so goooood together. Claire even has some dark edges, too, and I liked that! But no, they wouldn't have worked out. Claire crying as she watches Matt leave? NO. Matt basically telling Claire bye forever on the phone and her scared voice calling for him and the line is dead? GDI, MY HEART. STOP. Even if they tried, really tried, no I don't think they'd have worked out.
Because Matt, idek, Matt has so many of his own issues to deal with, he's still so broken in so many jagged ways and none of that is his fault but he's embraced it for so long, he doesn't know how to let people love him in a healthy way. One of his defining characteristics in the comics is he wants to be loved so damned badly... by someone, I suspect he'd accept almost anybody if they sold him on it, that when people are attracted to him even if it's just sexually it's like... he latches onto that but in the wrong ways. Like he can only love himself through other people's eyes. If he doesn't have anyone to love him (god bless Foggy, I swear), he just doesn't do well, his self-worth is too cataclysmically damaged. And ultimately he cycles through that whole 'it didn't work out' thing with his partners because he's always looking for the wrong thing in people. He tries, lord knows he tries, but he just... wants to be wanted so much, and maybe the closest he ever finds are those daddy figures (like Ben Urich in the comics) or the ones who want all the control in the relationship and it comes across to Matt as care/love (Elektra and arguably Frank Castle). I adore Matt, he's such a fabulous character, and kinda perfect for fandom considering he's basically a very pretty mosaic of broken bits. Nice fuel for so much fiction.
Oh! Oh! I would be very happy if Fisk and Vanessa would return in S2. VERY HAPPY. (lmk if you want spoilers regarding s2 *cough* because I can help with that.)
S2 speculation! *rubs hands together gleefully* The very best decision S1 gave me was letting Foggy know that Matt=DD before Karen (opposite of the comics). That said, I want Karen on board now! I want them to be a legit team against the world! I want Matt to have proper support like any real superhero! And I really, really don't want Karen (or even Elektra) to be killed by Bullseye in S2. I will be super pissed.
But yes, I do think Karen killing Wesley will be addressed in S2. I kinda think Karen will be on board with Frank's style of punishment (kill em allll! dooo eeeet!) and Foggy will stick to his NO KILL, KILL BAD, and they're going to be the proverbial angel and devil on Matt's shoulder when he starts to question himself again and whether he's doing the right thing. (Is there even a chance in this MCU that DD would ever turn into the Punisher? I mean seriously? I don't think so. I like that they're toying with it, I want everybody to act the hell out of it, I want to watch Matt be swayed by Frank Castle a little bit at least, I want Frank to break out the rubber bullets because Matt asks him to not kill just this one time, but I still don't think Marvel is ever going to allow Matt Murdock to be a stone cold killer or allow the Punisher to ever show mercy against Bigger Bads.) Now, considering The Punisher is getting his own series (omgomgomg), he and Matt would have to come to some sort of uneasy alliance eventually. Frank has to be accepted as a legit murderous antihero while DD has to be allowed to remain the angelic blind dude dressed like the devil who defends his city. TBH I'm almost expecting Matt to be swayed more by Karen to Frank's way of thinking, especially if Matt is coming to really love Karen in S2, because Matt never thinks clearly when his heart is involved. And considering Karen is already a killer, well.
That's why I'm here too. All the chatter on tumblr and twitter is making me miss Matty so much. ♥
Re: Watching Daredevil for the first time and without anywhere to flail
(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 06:05 am (UTC)(link)Welcome to the fun house, yay! The more the merrier! There's a rewatch happening upthread a little and they seem to be on the episode you just watched. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you jumped in to chat and discuss? Unless you want to create a new topic for each episode as you watch? That would be cool.
My new year's resolution was to leave more comments to authors. Authors are always asking for people to leave comments and I love to read fics so win-win, right? I've been leaving chirpy happy comments on almost every fic I've read, sometimes even on each chapter, and most authors reply to a comment, even if it's just to say thanks for commenting. Which I think is nice? Polite? It's not necessary, I guess, but there's a lot of authors who don't reply to my comments ever, and then I start to feel like I'm bothering them by leaving comments so I try to leave shorter comments, or if they reply to others and not me then I feel like they don't want ME commenting on their fics. So I stop. Not out of spite or anger but embarrassment because I feel like maybe my comments are too long and I should just shut up. Does this ever happen to you guys?
I do worry about the comments I leave, but then I try to acknowledge that it's just my anxiety acting up and move on.
Re: Watching Daredevil for the first time and without anywhere to flail
(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 07:27 am (UTC)(link)i like to pretend that the face-touching dinner never happened - or at least the face-touching part didn't. i can't watch that scene at all the secondhand embarrassment is through the roof :/ (as well as that i was a little disappointed that foggy was going to go along with it)
and as far as ben's wife is concerned "mysteriously ill" is accurate as hell because no one really knows, someone way way way back on this post called it "vague wasting disease" which currently stands to be the best diagnosis we've got!! (my initial thoughts were dementia/alzheimers but further than that i have no real idea)
(i just wanna say i absolutely appreciate your not-so-incoherent rambling and i hope you post more about it as you watch, i love people live-blogging shows it's fun to see new commentary/potentially new theories)
and as far as ben's wife is concerned "mysteriously ill" is accurate as hell because no one really knows, someone way way way back on this post called it "vague wasting disease" which currently stands to be the best diagnosis we've got!! (my initial thoughts were dementia/alzheimers but further than that i have no real idea)
(i just wanna say i absolutely appreciate your not-so-incoherent rambling and i hope you post more about it as you watch, i love people live-blogging shows it's fun to see new commentary/potentially new theories)
i feel the same way about any comments i leave but on the flip-side i'm also someone whose anxiety sometimes stops me from responding to comments, even when they're lovely. i tend to overthink my responses which sends me into a "i'll respond to that a little bit later" loop that ends with me never responding and feeling guilty that i didn't.
i'm absolutely sure it's nothing personal, especially since you're leaving positive/complimentary comments. as hard as it is not to, you shouldn't worry :)
i'm absolutely sure it's nothing personal, especially since you're leaving positive/complimentary comments. as hard as it is not to, you shouldn't worry :)
Comments are never too long.
Like, maybe this isn't a universally accepted truth, but everybody I knows loves and treasures long comments.
Like, maybe this isn't a universally accepted truth, but everybody I knows loves and treasures long comments.
Aww! The feeling is 100% mutual. I'm so excited whenever I see a new comment from you :D
OMG. I feel your rage at comics!Karen. I started the other way around (Netflix Karen first, then moved to the comics) and I'm always so upset at how they treat her in the comics. It's THE WORST. It was so jarring to move from MCU Karen, who has her own story and her own actual personality, to comics Karen who seemed to be treated as only either a) vague romantic interest or b) man-pain generator. /raaage.
Matt. Matt, Matt, Matt. He breaks my heart, that man. :( Combine that with his canonical issues with depression and mental health, and that makes an extremely worrying picture. Full disclaimer that I've actually only read the comics starting from after the antichrist baby thing in volume 2, and only skimmed most of it until Waid's run, but I can see that. I can definitely see that in some parts of the MCU version, for sure. And that perspective gives a whole new appreciation for where Matt is, headspace-wise, at the end of volume 4, with how he wholeheartedly recognizes Foggy and Kirsten's love for him, and how they all have each other's backs. It's absolutely the healthiest Matt's ever been, after the horrible rollercoaster that was his life. (And then they lived happily ever after... :'( I wish.)
spoilers for s2? oh yes pleeeeease! please. i've been so desperate for more s2 information lately. we need a new trailer, stat.
The thing about the identity reveals is that I feel like, now that Foggy knows about DD, the writers might keep Karen in the dark so there's still some element of secret identity going on. But I really hope they don't go down that path, honestly. I'm with you, I want them to be a team and work together! I do enjoy the identity shenanigans but there's only so many times Matt can say he fell down the stairs, and Karen is a smart woman. And I just want them to trust each other. Plus, there's just so much more they can do with the Karen/Matt relationship if Karen knows about Daredevil.
That angel/devil thing sounds PERFECT. I would really, really, really love if that were to be a theme in S2. I can imagine a lot of conflict for Karen too - she's killed before, to protect herself and people she loves, so there's every chance that she'll project any and all of Matt and Foggy's condemnations of the Punisher onto herself. I always think back to how much Foggy's offhand comment (something about no longer being human if you're a killer?) affected her after Wesley's death. If murder is always wrong, what does that make her? As for Matt becoming like the Punisher, I agree with you. I don't think it'll ever actually happen, because that's basically Daredevil's character on the line, but at the same time I want to see the push and pull and believe that he might actually go there, at least while the episodes are playing.
And then there's Elektra! From the sense I've been getting from interviews (**spoiler warning, I guess!), I feel like while the Punisher is pushing Matt to take his sense of justice for his city that single step further, Elektra will be getting him to kind of take a step back - to be more self-serving rather than self-sacrificing, to pursue his own goals rather than give everything up for Hell's Kitchen. Matt just needs to find the balance between the two, or at least find his own path that fits him best. Anyway, whatever happens, S2 will be a wild ride for him for sure.
OMG. I feel your rage at comics!Karen. I started the other way around (Netflix Karen first, then moved to the comics) and I'm always so upset at how they treat her in the comics. It's THE WORST. It was so jarring to move from MCU Karen, who has her own story and her own actual personality, to comics Karen who seemed to be treated as only either a) vague romantic interest or b) man-pain generator. /raaage.
Matt. Matt, Matt, Matt. He breaks my heart, that man. :( Combine that with his canonical issues with depression and mental health, and that makes an extremely worrying picture. Full disclaimer that I've actually only read the comics starting from after the antichrist baby thing in volume 2, and only skimmed most of it until Waid's run, but I can see that. I can definitely see that in some parts of the MCU version, for sure. And that perspective gives a whole new appreciation for where Matt is, headspace-wise, at the end of volume 4, with how he wholeheartedly recognizes Foggy and Kirsten's love for him, and how they all have each other's backs. It's absolutely the healthiest Matt's ever been, after the horrible rollercoaster that was his life. (And then they lived happily ever after... :'( I wish.)
spoilers for s2? oh yes pleeeeease! please. i've been so desperate for more s2 information lately. we need a new trailer, stat.
The thing about the identity reveals is that I feel like, now that Foggy knows about DD, the writers might keep Karen in the dark so there's still some element of secret identity going on. But I really hope they don't go down that path, honestly. I'm with you, I want them to be a team and work together! I do enjoy the identity shenanigans but there's only so many times Matt can say he fell down the stairs, and Karen is a smart woman. And I just want them to trust each other. Plus, there's just so much more they can do with the Karen/Matt relationship if Karen knows about Daredevil.
That angel/devil thing sounds PERFECT. I would really, really, really love if that were to be a theme in S2. I can imagine a lot of conflict for Karen too - she's killed before, to protect herself and people she loves, so there's every chance that she'll project any and all of Matt and Foggy's condemnations of the Punisher onto herself. I always think back to how much Foggy's offhand comment (something about no longer being human if you're a killer?) affected her after Wesley's death. If murder is always wrong, what does that make her? As for Matt becoming like the Punisher, I agree with you. I don't think it'll ever actually happen, because that's basically Daredevil's character on the line, but at the same time I want to see the push and pull and believe that he might actually go there, at least while the episodes are playing.
And then there's Elektra! From the sense I've been getting from interviews (**spoiler warning, I guess!), I feel like while the Punisher is pushing Matt to take his sense of justice for his city that single step further, Elektra will be getting him to kind of take a step back - to be more self-serving rather than self-sacrificing, to pursue his own goals rather than give everything up for Hell's Kitchen. Matt just needs to find the balance between the two, or at least find his own path that fits him best. Anyway, whatever happens, S2 will be a wild ride for him for sure.
As an author, it's entirely possible that the authors are just not sure *how* to reply to your comments. I don't reply to every comment because I don't know how to reply to most of them. Maybe if you want, putting in more questions?
There's no such thing as too-long comments, though I totally get commenting anxiety myself. (Am I being dumb??? Does the author secretly hate me???? Nope.)
I'll be back to answer this properly this weekend but spoilers ahoyyy! Can I white out text in here so ppl will have to highlight to read? Damn, I can't figure it out here, I think the tags are limited. OK, beware of one tiny but probably very important spoiler below.
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During s2 filming, past the halfway point, Vincent D'Onofrio was sighted on the set. Marvel shut down any chatter about it right quick. But of course the conclusion that we came to was Fisk is either out of prison or pulling strings from inside. The big guess is he finds out about Karen killing Wesley and also that Matt is DD and sends Elektra to kill Karen, Matt, and Foggy. I'm guessing if they're hiding the appearance of Fisk this hard, then they might actually be hiding Bullseye, too. And I would love to see Bullseye and Elektra go after our avocados and have Frank step in to help save them. I expect Elektra's allegiances to change like quicksilver since that's what she's good at, but I'm hoping she sides with Matt eventually. Idk idk but I have massive excite.
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During s2 filming, past the halfway point, Vincent D'Onofrio was sighted on the set. Marvel shut down any chatter about it right quick. But of course the conclusion that we came to was Fisk is either out of prison or pulling strings from inside. The big guess is he finds out about Karen killing Wesley and also that Matt is DD and sends Elektra to kill Karen, Matt, and Foggy. I'm guessing if they're hiding the appearance of Fisk this hard, then they might actually be hiding Bullseye, too. And I would love to see Bullseye and Elektra go after our avocados and have Frank step in to help save them. I expect Elektra's allegiances to change like quicksilver since that's what she's good at, but I'm hoping she sides with Matt eventually. Idk idk but I have massive excite.
(Stealing your spoiler tags, lol. iirc, there used to be white text but Dreamwidth got rid of it, for anon posts at least.)
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!!!! oh my god. I can't believe I haven't heard about this. Marvel's PR team must be really good.
Gahhh, I'm so scared for Karen and Elektra. I can absolutely believe that they're hiding Bullseye from us, and Bullseye's whole schtick is basically that he keeps fridging Matt's girlfriends D: I really, really hope they don't play that plot out. Or if they absolutely must, for whatever reason, then I hope the characters die for their own plot and not because they're connected to Matt (if that makes sense).
I'm taking Fisk's return as a sign that Vanessa will be back too, though. <333 They're the best evil power couple ever. Even if the show is actually just bringing Fisk to a court appearance or whatever, I want her to be there. At least just show her face for half a second. Please. haha
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!!!! oh my god. I can't believe I haven't heard about this. Marvel's PR team must be really good.
Gahhh, I'm so scared for Karen and Elektra. I can absolutely believe that they're hiding Bullseye from us, and Bullseye's whole schtick is basically that he keeps fridging Matt's girlfriends D: I really, really hope they don't play that plot out. Or if they absolutely must, for whatever reason, then I hope the characters die for their own plot and not because they're connected to Matt (if that makes sense).
I'm taking Fisk's return as a sign that Vanessa will be back too, though. <333 They're the best evil power couple ever. Even if the show is actually just bringing Fisk to a court appearance or whatever, I want her to be there. At least just show her face for half a second. Please. haha
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