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Discussion/Off-Topic Post #1
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Massive difference between that and talking about them like stuff you buy in a department store.
http://daredevilkink.dreamwidth.org/3230.html?thread=6155678#cmt6155678
This, right?
This, right?
I do most of my writing on my iPhone.
While I poop.
While I poop.
True.
But if you do see them meet during undergrad, they may not have picked their majors at that point.
And the Foggy you see in Episode 1 would seem to be a very different guy than his college self.
But if you do see them meet during undergrad, they may not have picked their majors at that point.
And the Foggy you see in Episode 1 would seem to be a very different guy than his college self.
+1
Foggy isn't the perfect, unproblematic college activist whose views line up precisely with those of an author who's likely in a whole different demographic.
I like socially conscious foggy, but (at least in the MCU) %75+ of that is pulled out of a fan's ass.
Foggy isn't the perfect, unproblematic college activist whose views line up precisely with those of an author who's likely in a whole different demographic.
I like socially conscious foggy, but (at least in the MCU) %75+ of that is pulled out of a fan's ass.
OP ^^ more closely lines up with my thinking re: that headcanon. Wasn't intending to have him be a social activist, I just thought he would have chosen a more offbeat odd minor that based on his personality people wouldn't expect (and also assume that since he chose some of his courses just to meet girls he would have ended up in a few womens studies courses and been surprisingly into the subject, eventually forgetting/abandoning his initial intentions for taking them.
Complaining anon from below.
I'm sorry, that was harsh and misdirected. I ass-u-me'd things and you know what they say about assuming.
I like the 'came for the coeds, stayed for the course itself' idea. That could actually be a really cool prompt. Along with Foggy and the Search for a Quirky Major
I'm sorry, that was harsh and misdirected. I ass-u-me'd things and you know what they say about assuming.
I like the 'came for the coeds, stayed for the course itself' idea. That could actually be a really cool prompt. Along with Foggy and the Search for a Quirky Major
Amen.
I love Foggy too, but seriously.
I love Foggy too, but seriously.
Seriously tho. Foggy took a language course because he wanted to fuck a girl.
To be honest, I see 'Devil by the Horns' as very out of character for both Punisher and Daredevil. It strongly conflicts with a good chunk of their relationship in the comics, particularly the run where Matt is in prison (Frank purposely gets himself arrested when he finds out Matt is struggling with prison life so he can help him) and the Omega Effect where Frank basically lets Matt boss him around the entire time.
They beat the crap out of each other and trash talk each other sometimes for sure, but beneath that there's genuine and mutual care. "Devil by the Horns" is definitely not the comic to judge Frank Castle or his relationship with DD by.
They beat the crap out of each other and trash talk each other sometimes for sure, but beneath that there's genuine and mutual care. "Devil by the Horns" is definitely not the comic to judge Frank Castle or his relationship with DD by.
Hiya all,
Thought this article might be useful to anyone writing about Matt using heart rate for lying- it's not admissible in court, for a start!
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/detection-deception-are-polygraphs-scientifically-accurate
Enjoy :)
Thought this article might be useful to anyone writing about Matt using heart rate for lying- it's not admissible in court, for a start!
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/detection-deception-are-polygraphs-scientifically-accurate
Enjoy :)
Tbh I think that most people already know that is true but because the show and comics handwave it we also choose to handwave it. Also I think Matt has the ability to sense it in people in other ways - heartbeat is shorthand (and it's one I will use to just keep the plot moving) but judging by what he told Foggy he uses other senses along with heartbeat to detect if people are lying.
NA another thing is that I mean I hated, hated, hated that Devil by the Horns comic but then I looked at when it was written and at or around that time Daredevil's ongoing was being written by Kevin Smith and it was a trainwreck too.
Plus. . .comics are like fanfiction. Every writer wants to be distinctive and to have a different take on the characters. So for example in Devil in Cell Block D by Brubaker, Brubaker portrays their relationship as mutually helpful and as a way to preserve Matt's integrity and keep him away from the brink. During this time, Matt was more violent than usual and that's what fit the story. During Ann Nocenti's run around ten years earlier, she had a much more pacifist take on Matt. So in her run, Matt and the Punisher really don't get on. They also don't need to at that time either so it works out well. And then in 'Devil by the Horns,' Ennis is just an awful writer so there's that.
The point being really that you CAN judge a character by a single run if you really want to, but that takes the character out of a lot of context even in cases (like Fraction's Hawkeye) that are deliberately novel takes on a character and storytelling for them.
Plus. . .comics are like fanfiction. Every writer wants to be distinctive and to have a different take on the characters. So for example in Devil in Cell Block D by Brubaker, Brubaker portrays their relationship as mutually helpful and as a way to preserve Matt's integrity and keep him away from the brink. During this time, Matt was more violent than usual and that's what fit the story. During Ann Nocenti's run around ten years earlier, she had a much more pacifist take on Matt. So in her run, Matt and the Punisher really don't get on. They also don't need to at that time either so it works out well. And then in 'Devil by the Horns,' Ennis is just an awful writer so there's that.
The point being really that you CAN judge a character by a single run if you really want to, but that takes the character out of a lot of context even in cases (like Fraction's Hawkeye) that are deliberately novel takes on a character and storytelling for them.
So, does anybody have any good BAMF!Matt fanvids? And more importantly, am I the only one who thinks 'You're Gonna Go Far, Kid' would make the perfect Stick fanvid?
This is one of those times I wish I had any video editing skills at all.
This is one of those times I wish I had any video editing skills at all.
Yeah, the lawyer I know was poli sci in undergrad, as well. I think that's pretty normal. (It's actually my default assumption of what someone will take if they're planning on going into law. Then again, I attended a liberal arts college that didn't have loads of the departments that have been created in the last thirty years. Computer Science was kind of an offshoot of Mathematics, still, even.)
I'm writing a fic in which Matt goes to NYU (because I think he's secretly pretty snobby, at times, and my very vague impression of NYU makes me think he'd fit right in that way) studying public policy (because of his Thurgood Marshall obsession, of course!), while Foggy attends Empire State University (a Marvel creation, the equivalent of DC's Hudson University, as far as I can tell), with a good ol' political science major. It's been fun, because I can research the real NYU to help with my story and then just make up the ESU stuff out of thin air.
I was also an English major, and was encouraged during college to look into law, as well as other grad schools (such as seminary), for that reason. Law schools appreciate students who can communicate well, apparently. (Although I was an English major for the *literature,* and only took the one composition course they made me take, so I'm not sure that advice was aimed at me so much as the composition-loving classmates at the departmental assemblies.)
I'm writing a fic in which Matt goes to NYU (because I think he's secretly pretty snobby, at times, and my very vague impression of NYU makes me think he'd fit right in that way) studying public policy (because of his Thurgood Marshall obsession, of course!), while Foggy attends Empire State University (a Marvel creation, the equivalent of DC's Hudson University, as far as I can tell), with a good ol' political science major. It's been fun, because I can research the real NYU to help with my story and then just make up the ESU stuff out of thin air.
I was also an English major, and was encouraged during college to look into law, as well as other grad schools (such as seminary), for that reason. Law schools appreciate students who can communicate well, apparently. (Although I was an English major for the *literature,* and only took the one composition course they made me take, so I'm not sure that advice was aimed at me so much as the composition-loving classmates at the departmental assemblies.)
So, I've got my assignment for the 2015 Daredevil Secret Santa Gift Exchange, and I'm super-excited. (I'm happy it changed from the first one I got, honestly, because I'm not sure I have the writing chops at all but that one was even more intimidating. Speaking of which, my recipient will be happy that I made something custom for him/her, no matter how substandard, right? It's made WITH LOVE, anon. Even though I don't actually know you.)
But this is the first time I've ever done one of these, and to fill in my back story I was considering incorporating something from a completely unrelated kinkmeme prompt. (One of those really general ones.) Would it be ruder to ignore that that was an inspiration for my backstory, or to give a fic to someone and say, "Oh, yeah, and it fills this prompt, too, so it's kind of like you have to share this gift with someone else...", which is kind of what citing that inspirational prompt in the story itself would do? Should I just link it to the secondary inspiration on its thread here on the kinkmeme, or should I post it on the fills page as well, and if I do either of those, should I wait for a while after the original reveal of the fic, or do it right away?
I mean, I know the recipients of the gift exchange are actually sharing their fics with anyone who wants to read them, and it's not like I'd say it was written for anybody but that person, but I'm kind of kerflummoxed on the etiquette issues, here.
Thoughts, opinions, sage advice from gift exchange veterans who have experienced something like this from either end before?
...and any other etiquette advice on gift exchanges, while we're at it? I may not be the only idiot fumbling my way through some of this, after all...
But this is the first time I've ever done one of these, and to fill in my back story I was considering incorporating something from a completely unrelated kinkmeme prompt. (One of those really general ones.) Would it be ruder to ignore that that was an inspiration for my backstory, or to give a fic to someone and say, "Oh, yeah, and it fills this prompt, too, so it's kind of like you have to share this gift with someone else...", which is kind of what citing that inspirational prompt in the story itself would do? Should I just link it to the secondary inspiration on its thread here on the kinkmeme, or should I post it on the fills page as well, and if I do either of those, should I wait for a while after the original reveal of the fic, or do it right away?
I mean, I know the recipients of the gift exchange are actually sharing their fics with anyone who wants to read them, and it's not like I'd say it was written for anybody but that person, but I'm kind of kerflummoxed on the etiquette issues, here.
Thoughts, opinions, sage advice from gift exchange veterans who have experienced something like this from either end before?
...and any other etiquette advice on gift exchanges, while we're at it? I may not be the only idiot fumbling my way through some of this, after all...
Because crossover fanfiction aficionados enjoy having characters played by the same actor be secretly the same people (or at least related)? And this is Marvel Universe, where science, magic, or some freaking amalgamation of the two can explain drastic changes in people? (Max received a variant of the supersoldier serum! Kevin was a mutant, whose mutation killed him but allowed him to pass on his intelligence to his best friend! Max was secretly partly alien, which means that his maturation was completely different and he secretly wasn't stupid, just ugly duckling-y! Once he finished his physical growth, his mental growth began!)
Also, the loyalty both characters show towards those who are physically disabled and therefore isolated from those around them indicate a somewhat similar personality and bent, which could well belong to the same person at different stages in his life. Also also, I've had fun with end punctuation in this post. Please don't judge.
Also, the loyalty both characters show towards those who are physically disabled and therefore isolated from those around them indicate a somewhat similar personality and bent, which could well belong to the same person at different stages in his life. Also also, I've had fun with end punctuation in this post. Please don't judge.
Did you really have to take this here to insult it? Why not just leave that person and their headcanon alone?
It's fanfiction. How does a lot of shit happen in fanfiction? Reasonably, someone could also come up with valid arguments regarding how Matt could possibly be gay, or how a trans headcanon could be possible, or a universe where Matt could hook up with Punisher.
Fanfic writers can handwave anything away. In fact, sometimes that's even the point. So honestly, this falls under YKINMKATO.
It's fanfiction. How does a lot of shit happen in fanfiction? Reasonably, someone could also come up with valid arguments regarding how Matt could possibly be gay, or how a trans headcanon could be possible, or a universe where Matt could hook up with Punisher.
Fanfic writers can handwave anything away. In fact, sometimes that's even the point. So honestly, this falls under YKINMKATO.
Okay... but Matt guessed that Foggy was taking it for that reason, which means it can't be that outrageous a thing to do. And then Foggy implies later that Matt did a similar thing re: his Spanish class. So, can we all not shit all over Foggy for being a somewhat typical 17-18 year old who makes misguided or dumb romantic decisions?
I mean, Felicity freakin' chased a guy cross-country and chose her school based on him on that show. And some people could read what Foggy did as romantic if he was maybe seeing this girl first or wanted to date her properly.
I'm not trying to be overly defensive of people with a social activist headcanon, because I do think that they're stretching a bit. But I think the people automatically taking offense based on Foggy's behaviour are also stretching a bit and reaching to make the opposite argument. It's a couple of throwaway lines from the character at a time where Foggy's supposed to be younger and lacking maturity (especially given everything else we can tell about him based on his appearance and mannerisms in those scenes).
Both arguments are perfectly valid at this point.
I mean, Felicity freakin' chased a guy cross-country and chose her school based on him on that show. And some people could read what Foggy did as romantic if he was maybe seeing this girl first or wanted to date her properly.
I'm not trying to be overly defensive of people with a social activist headcanon, because I do think that they're stretching a bit. But I think the people automatically taking offense based on Foggy's behaviour are also stretching a bit and reaching to make the opposite argument. It's a couple of throwaway lines from the character at a time where Foggy's supposed to be younger and lacking maturity (especially given everything else we can tell about him based on his appearance and mannerisms in those scenes).
Both arguments are perfectly valid at this point.
Do you ever feel like you somehow inherently stop conversation?
(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)...like (either in real life or on, say, the Daredevil Kink Meme), there's a really cool conversation going on, so you try to contribute to it, and then not only does no one respond to you but everyone stops talking entirely? Like, they stare at you and then check their watches and leave or you refresh the comments for three hours (or three days) and nobody's talking anymore?
Honestly, it can't possibly be personal hygiene over a kinkmeme.
I don't think I have a persecution complex, and I do understand that it's probably a.) weird hour differences or b.) a thread that was already dying (or c.) just my perception, because of the whole asynchronous aspect of these conversations and my impatience for more). I really just want to know if anyone else ever feels like this.
And also for someone else to resurrect the Halloween thread. Throw some praise to a lovely author, anon! No one ever deserves my comment to be the last word on a subject.
Honestly, it can't possibly be personal hygiene over a kinkmeme.
I don't think I have a persecution complex, and I do understand that it's probably a.) weird hour differences or b.) a thread that was already dying (or c.) just my perception, because of the whole asynchronous aspect of these conversations and my impatience for more). I really just want to know if anyone else ever feels like this.
And also for someone else to resurrect the Halloween thread. Throw some praise to a lovely author, anon! No one ever deserves my comment to be the last word on a subject.
HI! Real life person with a learning disability here!
Did you know that people with LD's can adapt and grow?
I'm not a lawyer. I work in the non-profit field. But I struggled as much in school as Max. I still graduated with honors. Because someone, in my case it was my art teacher, helped me out. Kinda like Kevin did for max.
So, STOP YOUR ABLEST SHIT.
Thanks!
Did you know that people with LD's can adapt and grow?
I'm not a lawyer. I work in the non-profit field. But I struggled as much in school as Max. I still graduated with honors. Because someone, in my case it was my art teacher, helped me out. Kinda like Kevin did for max.
So, STOP YOUR ABLEST SHIT.
Thanks!
Re: Do you ever feel like you somehow inherently stop conversation?
(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)Yes to this!
I know it's BS, but it happens to here, during IM or Skype conversations, etc. The moment there's crickets, I start worrying that everyone's left to form a "No Homers" club, but to exclude me.
I feel like I may someday accidentally stumble across a secret kinkmeme or Tumblr chain being like "the nerve of that person!" It's why I get defensive when I see anyone call a person specifically out on this post or anywhere. Because for me, that would be my nightmare.
I know it's BS, but it happens to here, during IM or Skype conversations, etc. The moment there's crickets, I start worrying that everyone's left to form a "No Homers" club, but to exclude me.
I feel like I may someday accidentally stumble across a secret kinkmeme or Tumblr chain being like "the nerve of that person!" It's why I get defensive when I see anyone call a person specifically out on this post or anywhere. Because for me, that would be my nightmare.
Re: Do you ever feel like you somehow inherently stop conversation?
(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)AYRT: Yeah, or maybe they just think "That person must be trolling, the comment was so stupid," and they don't want to feed the troll.
(I do make sure never to bring Nazis into things, just in case. Except for that comment thread where I referenced Nazis, but that wasn't to win an argument. Plus, Marvel brings Nazis into things ALL THE TIME.)
(I do make sure never to bring Nazis into things, just in case. Except for that comment thread where I referenced Nazis, but that wasn't to win an argument. Plus, Marvel brings Nazis into things ALL THE TIME.)
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