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Foggy has everything he could have dreamed about: he works at a prestigious law firm that he built from the ground up with his gorgeous partner-turned-husband, Matt. They share a beautiful home in the suburbs where they can escape from the pressures of the city. Their daughter is a bright and talented middle schooler with all of Matt's passion and all of Foggy's humor.

None of that stops Foggy from falling in love with the sharp and beautiful reporter Karen Page--and none of it stops him from acting on those feelings.

Just give me all of the angst, please.

Bonuses:
+Foggy tries to psychoanalyze himself in order to dispel his attraction, but every time he tries to use logic to convince himself to leave Karen, all of his arguments fall apart when he sees her again.
+++Matt recognizes some of the signs early on, but doesn't put them together because he trusts Foggy so implicitly.
+++++Karen is surprised to find that seducing a married man is a significant ego boost that raises her self-confidence and is no small part of the reason she continues the relationship as long as she does.
+++++++If you can incorporate the aging Matt's struggles to add meaning to his life as he approaches the age where vigilantism no longer constitutes a healthy source of exercise.

Oh fuck, I think this fic will make me really mad at Foggy and Karen, and I love them so much, but dear god I want this.

Someone please break my heart with a fill.

Does vigilantism ever constitute a healthy form of exercise?

The results don't lie. You think Matt could have gotten glutes that amazing doing Zumba classes at the Y?

Long-time lurker, first-time poster here! :)

I absolutely love this prompt! I read it once and it wouldn't leave me alone the rest of the day, so I'd love to give it a go. I have a few questions though, since I'd like to do it justice!

- I'm in Australia, so I'm not 100% clear on what constitutes a middle-school aged kid. My ideas for this story involve a little girl around 8 - 10, would that be close enough? If not, are you cool with a girl around that age, or would you prefer they have an older child?

- How do you feel about their little girl being an adopted child?(I have some thoughts about them finding her in an orphanage or something, maybe she was involved in a case? somehow a case led them to her?)

- I think I'd be happy to write this either way, but would you rather a.) after THINGS and PLOT happen, Matt & Foggy 'work things out' so to speak and end up (back) together? Lots of absolutely-no-trust-at-all-Matt, and grovelling, oh-my-god-I-ruined-EVERYTHING-Foggy. This is still going to be SUPER angsty, however. Like, all the angst.

or b.) Matt & Foggy do NOT 'work things out'. The damage is irreversible. Perhaps Foggy and Karen end up in a relationship from their affair? Maybe. Matt is left alone, hurting, with pretty much nobody, struggling to rebuild his life. Again: angst, angst, so much angst.

- Would you rather Matt knows Karen, or have her interactions been only with Foggy up to the point of the affair coming out?

- Things I'd love to incorporate:
~ at some point, Matt saying to Foggy, "I gave up EVERYTHING for you!" (everything meaning Daredevil, the city he grew up in, his priest, etc - I'm thinking it was Foggy's idea to move to the suburbs).
~ I don't want to write Karen as some kind of naive girl. I love the idea of the affair giving her an ego boost, and how to tie that in with her character. However! I would love to write a scene in which (somehow) she comes across Matt and his daughter (maybe out shopping, at a cafe, school, etc). I want her to notice that he looks like shit, basically - hasn't been sleeping, lost weight, grimacing, blah blah. I want her to feel that stab of, "oh no, I did that." (even though yes, it's not just HER fault, of course!)
~ I've got ideas about Foggy coming home late, and Matt maybe smelling Karen's perfume. I want this to be where Matt's trust comes into play, and where he beats himself up later because he 'should have known', but instead he put so much trust in Foggy that he literally didn't even think anything untoward.
~ I want Foggy to realise, at some point, that many of the qualities he'd fallen for in Karen were the same ones he loved in Matt, and to feel even worse for it.

Idk. Sorry, it's 430AM and I'm way tired, but I had to write something! Do you have any other little ideas or plot points you'd like incorporated? Is there anything here you absolutely hate?

I'm not the op, but do you mind if I comment? I'd love if it went down the option b path - marriage unreconcilable but Matt gets custody of their little girl. Maybe Foggy feels so guilty that he doesn't fight for custody, and their daughter felt that it was his fault the marriage failed and hates him for what he did to Matt. And maybe the connection was always more between Matt and their daughter - he wanted to adopt her and he related to her better cause he was also an orphan and he reduced his work hours or something in order to raise her? And even though it's all going to hell, he's trying to keep it together for her, and on one level if he didn't have her, he wouldn't be able to function, but because she's there he can imagine it's all going to be ok.

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All your ideas about Matt and their daughter are very close to my own! I'm going to write the daughter as being very hurt, very angry at Foggy, but to hammer the angst in even more I want Matt desperately trying to convince her not to be, and that Foggy's a nice guy, etc, even though his heart's breaking as he says it.

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Wow! I'm so glad that someone's so interested in this!

Lately I have been reading Anna Karenina and the Aeneid and stuff where adultery is a major source of character and plot conflict, so I am definitely okay with things being complex and multi-layered and with the blurring of the lines between "victims" and "perpetrators" of adultery. If you're interested, here is a wonderful TED Talk that explores the implications of adultery in the context of contemporary relationships:

https://www.ted.com/talks/esther_perel_rethinking_infidelity_a_talk_for_anyone_who_has_ever_loved?language=en

Now, as for your questions...

-Normally in America, Middle School kids are 11/12-13/14, and they are in their sixth-eighth years of school. The age of the little girl isn't terribly important to me, but I do want her to be old enough to at least have an idea of what's really going on.

-I had been thinking of the daughter as being biologically Matt's, but adoption works, too. The other anon's idea of her being closer to Matt than Foggy works fine for me.

-As for whether Matt decides to stay or leave...hm. Personally, I think that the choice to stay and try to repair the relationship would actually be the harder one for both of them...but I think it would also be quite a bit harder to write, since it avoids the easiest ending point. I think that Matt would also be more likely to choose to stay than to leave due to a number of reasons, the most prominent being his Catholicism. Often, modern media puts guilt in the spotlight as the most prominent element of Catholicism, but historically and theologically speaking, its most distinctive trait is its emphasis on forgiveness and mercy for those who have sinned. ("Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.") Throw in Matt's complete devotion to Foggy and his childhood history of parental (figure) abandonment, and I don't think that it's very likely that Matt could go through with leaving, even if part of him wanted to.

-I think that maybe Matt knows who Karen is, but they aren't very well acquainted. It would be WAY harder to hide an affair for any length of time if Matt "I can smell your feelings" Murdock were in direct contact with both participants.

I like your other ideas, especially the bit about Karen's character! As for other ideas...I'd really like to re-emphasize the point of Matt dealing with leaving Daredevil behind. I had been thinking of him trying to find other projects to occupy his time, like doing a lot of pro bono cases for clients who need him. I'd really like it if there could be a point or two (maybe even while Matt is making the decision to leave or stay) where he goes to see Fisk, who is now also retired and quite old, and they have a civil conversation that demonstrates how, in a weird way, they each understood parts of each other that no one else could.

But these are deepest darkest desires, so don't worry if it doesn't fit with your vision. I get the impression that you're very thoughtful with your plotting, so I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be great. :)

Potential writer again, here! :)

I definitely feel the same about Matt's history and Catholicism tying in with his character, and that both would make it very hard for him to leave, so I think I'm going to go down that path. It doesn't really sit with me that he would just accept the end of their relationship completely, no matter how much the betrayal was tearing him apart.

I was also thinking of their daughter being closer to Matt, so I'm glad you like that idea! That's also why I was thinking adoption - I want her and Matt to have a kind of bond that no matter how hard he tries to, Foggy can't 'truly' relate to. I can also imagine Matt painfully trying convince her to see, or speak to, Foggy, after everything comes out.

I will definitely deal with Matt leaving Daredevil behind. I'm not sure exactly how to write that yet, but I know I want to broach on him finding a new outlet for his anger.

I really like the idea of him taking on extra, pro bono cases, so that will be going in!

So excited to start writing this now!

Sorry to barge in, but from what has been said about the daughter, she'll probably take Matts side, and I feel like Matt would probably at least hear her opinion.

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