daredevilkink | Discussion/Off-Topic Post #1

I'm sorry but foggy is a fat joke in the comics. He's replaceable.

ayrt

Well, I actually meant I've never met someone who didn't love tv!Foggy. What do you mean replaceable, though? You mean the role should be recast in the show, or replaced with a different character? Or do you mean comics!Foggy should be replaced with a different character?

He is a one not character. And character could take his place.

Fatphobic much?

Sounds like you haven't actually read much of the comics. His character has evolved a lot over the years.

nayr but ehhh, you're not exactly wrong. I don't know if you're the same anon who said Foggy was a fat joke in the comics? Hmm, addressing the comics here... While he does have some atrocious habits in the comics (eating and snoring and slobbish, not to mention some hygienic issues that are sold to the readers as comedic), he's also usually sold to the readers as a man with a brilliant mind for laws and statutes and gifted when it comes to research. He's a sweet, good-natured guy who very much wants to be a hero like Matt, but really needs to be terrified or very angry before he leaps into action. Foggy's normal like the rest of us. But he's very much capable of holding up his end of Nelson & Murdock, sometimes he IS Nelson & Murdock because Matt has a whole other job that involves regularly being gone from his normal day job, sometimes for days on end.

But also, Foggy's THE grounding factor in Matt's life. He worries about Matt, he loves Matt and he isn't shy about letting Matt know that (even when he's yelling at him which is pretty rare in the 50+ years of the comics, but even when Foggy does it's not about MATT YOU ARE AN IDIOT, it's MATT YOU DID THIS THING THAT I DON'T LIKE STOP DOING THE THING), he challenges Matt, he's the calm eye at the center of Matt's hurricane lifestyle. And while Matt's history puts him on a first name basis with most of the other superheroes in the Marvel universe (some of whom he's very, very good friends with, many who have fought side by side with Matt and who regularly call him Matt or Matty or Matthew regardless of whether he's wearing the DD suit or not), Foggy is Matt's platonic life partner, they're so married it's ridiculous, and Matt needs Foggy's good-hearted normal, the way Foggy will always be iron filings to Matt's crazy troublemagnet ass.

OTOH, the Foggy on the show is not well developed at all. We really don't know anything about him except he's a good guy. Which is important, yes, but being a decent person is the baseline expectation for all the heroes we usually cheer for, but beyond that? Is there anything about Foggy that isn't specifically defined as well (or better) with Claire? Claire shares all of Foggy's best personality traits and then some, and the show managed to do that with less screen time than Foggy. Which is, idek, it's disappointing. I understand Claire and Foggy are both support type characters, the show was always going to address the history of Matt and Karen in some way, but could Foggy have been replaced with just anyone on the show? With what they gave us in s1? Probably. I think the Foggy on the show is a kinder, gentler version than the comics Foggy, but also less nuanced, less depth, and I hope season 2 Foggy gets some better definition so Elden can really own that role.

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