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(frozen comment) Re: Always-a-Girl! [Character] Is transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-31 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
OP: When did I call people using the notation transphobic? You can call a notation problematic or transphobic without attacking the people using it and I, and the people who looked it over for me, think I handled it fairly well.

Like... transphobia exists in language or "semantics" and I don't think pointing that out is a bad thing.

And since I guess I'm willing to be "that guy" the asterisk after trans is transphobic.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=trans*+offensive

My explanation of it, if you don't want to follow that google link is that trans PERIOD covers non-binary trans people because non-binary trans people are trans. Throwing in an asterisk, which in common usage denotes and exception to a statement, not an inclusion, means one is saying that trans doesn't include these people but trans* does.

Also, cis people have been using it for ages to say that non-binary people aren't really trans. I won't bring up how it's been used to hurt transwomen because I would think you would be familiar with it but if I remember correctly that second link on google explains it pretty well.

(frozen comment) Re: Always-a-Girl! [Character] Is transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You honestly just lectured a trans person about what trans people should find offensive?

Ok.

(also that's not the origin of the asterisk usage AT ALL buuut you don't seem the type to care so whatever -shrug-)

(frozen comment) Re: Always-a-Girl! [Character] Is transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
PSSSSSTTT

I'm trans. And I have opinions. That doesn't mean I'm telling any other trans person what they should or should not believe.

I just linked an post that holds my views to have a discussion about what other people thing. I'm not telling anyone else what they should or should not find offensive.

I am however looking for something more substantial from this discussion beyond "I don't find this offensive" and "You're wrong" because um, that's not a discussion.

And I'm not owed a discussion from you or anything, but if you're not here to actually engage with the topic at hand, why are you here?

Also, since I was around when the asterisk was created and popularized and you didn't provide any sources or anything to back up your idea that my take, any of my takes, on the linguistics being discussed are wrong I am just going to have to assume that you don't really know what your talking about and don't actually care to learn any more than what it is you already know. (And for some reason aren't willing to share.) Because what else am I supposed to do? You clearly don't want to engage, at least not in good faith, and it's starting to be a problem.

(frozen comment) Re: Always-a-Girl! [Character] Is transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Trans* anon here.

I shouldn't be surprised that you want to control how trans people choose to identify, but gosh, it's almost like you want to control how trans people choose to identify, unless it aligns with your personal opinion.

Apparently it's alright to have aaaaaalll those other subsets of Trans (AFAB, demi-boy, nonbinary, etc), and yet Trans* is the one thing that you choose to Nope about? Ok.

Drop the victim complex. You'll be happier for it.