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Unpopular opinion:

The way Foggy spoke to Marci before walking off during their meeting at L&Z was not impressive at all and was, in fact, completely inappropriate. It seems out of character (and, to be honest, like he practiced saying it in a mirror)

I thought it was fine until he told her she didn't have a soul - then I burst out laughing because...really??

honestly, yeah. this. I agree. if there's one thing I hate hate hate, it's characters explaining that their exes are terrible people to someone who knows only one person and has no idea of the history involved, because that...eh. makes me a little nervous and uncomfortable? (and it's SO CHILDISH. don't talk shit about your exes unless there is a current and pressing reason to talk shit about them, you dig? otherwise you sound like. a. child.)

i do agree with downthread nonny too: marci refusing to use ms. cardenas's name is racist and gross and makes her look bad. If they'd left that in there? Without Foggy aggressively confronting her about how they used to fuck/date and so she needs to listen to him and remember that she had a soul and all that nonsense?

Foggy & Karen would've been sympathetic, Marci would've been obviously the asshole, scene would've been cleaner.

As is? You get Foggy coming off as...eh, That Dude who's awesome while he's dating you and the minute you dump him he starts getting rude in public, and also Marci being racist.

I think the problem for me is that Elden didn't really "sell" the line to me? Like, Foggy is usually just so nice to everyone; he didn't have the right inflection when he was telling Marci off. If I were her I'd have laughed in his face for sounding so ridiculous.

(I blame the writers also? It had the same awkward feel as that exposition scene where Foggy had that weird disagreement with Matt in front of the realtor)

I actually agree that Foggy is dissing the ex in this scene. But "the ex" isn't Marci; it's Landman and Zack.

I definitely think Foggy is disappointed in Marci, but a.) he does say his line *to her face*, after her behavior is atrocious; it's not like he's busting on her to Karen behind her back. He's talking TO MARCI. (Karen just happens to be there.) and b) there's every indication that both dating and break-up were *before* she "lost her soul." (And this is apparently a while after that, and Foggy was not expecting that level of nastiness from her, so it isn't "the minute you dump him he starts getting rude in public.") Later Foggy's reconsidering his relationship with her, wondering (to Karen) if she had always been so awful and he'd caught wanting relationships with the wrong people from Matt, and you can object to that, if you want, but that doesn't seem to be what this scene is about.

Instead, this scene *is* all about Landman and Zack; its power, its practices, and the kind of person you have to be to be successful there. And Foggy is rejoicing in his "breakup" with it, that he got out of that toxic relationship. Seriously, if he can compare his partnership with Matt to a marriage, how is L&Z not "the ex"? He may have had a more comfortable life externally living there (bagels!), but he didn't like the kind of person he would have had to become. If you can think of a better reason to ditch a relationship instead of committing, please let me know.

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