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The abuse is verbal amd emotional, for sure.

Foggy clearly got into being a lawyer to make her happy and follow in her footsteps because she's a huge deal in the legal community.

In the comics, she offers to start a firm with him and lets him get really excited and think she's proud of him, but she neglects to tell him it's because she wants to work with Matt. Then, she does nothing but berate him (about not just his legal abilities, but also his weight, choice of girlfriend, attitude, cowardice, etc.) over the course of them working together, including to Matt who only tolerates her at all because he loves his friend and because she threatens to humiliate and fire Foggy, even ruin his reputation, if Matt walks away from their firm.

You see that she hates Foggy's stepmom who actually raised him and calls her stuff like "that woman". (Anna hates her right back).

When she finds out that Foggy is somehow connected to Daredevil she spreads the word to the press that their firm is Daredevil's representation and that her son knows him personally (even though it makes Foggy uncomfortable). She spends a lot of time trying to mold Foggy into her own image (which earned her the nickname Razor in the legal community).

And, the finishing blow, when Foggy is falsely accused of murder she fires him anyway and refuses to let their firm represent him, telling Matt that it's punishment for her son humiliating her by getting arrested in the first place and that he can rot in jail for all she cares.

Obviously that is the point at which Matt tells her where she can shove it and helps Foggy anyway.

And Foggy takes everything she dishes out to him with good humour and a desire to get her approval.

It's pretty brutal.

SA as above, I actually read that arc in the comics. Even though they were terribly written and poorly drawn during that period of time.

If you are writing a Rosalind fic (and I hope that you are, because there needs to be more of them), you may want to read a fic I wrote which I believe might be the only Rosalind fic in existence so far (although I haven't scoured ff.net yet). You can find it here: http://archiveofourown.org/works/3971005/chapters/8908675

It's Chapter 2. (The other chapters are about Matt's relationship with his mom).

My characterization of him in the MCU version of this is a little bit more subtly approval seeking and a little less willing to take her crap, but the basics of it are the same.

So sorry, no, I'm not writing a Rosalind fic. When you said she abused him, I thought maybe as a child.

Sorry to disappoint!

His mom in the comics was pretty awful which is why I cheered that she's so very obviously not the same person in the MCU. Thank God we got a different Foggy on the show with a different, more loving blue-collar family who love and support him. I thought they gave him more stability to foil Matt's horrible background because it makes a nice balance between them.

Aaah... not so fast though, nonnie. He's mentioned his mom and that his family is blue collar, but the mom he could be referring to could easily be Anna and we just haven't gotten a mention of Rosalind yet. The comics pulled a fast one on readers introducing Rosalind too because you assumed you had met Foggy's mom before in that case too.

We'll have to wait and see.

also there's the fact that rosalind made a comment in passing regarding foggy's weight, saying that she deprived him of food as punishment. reminds me a disturbing amount of those mothers who starve their children because they think they're "too fat" then are shrugging at CPS when the kid ends up in the hospital. y'know, with the added punishment factor.

I agree with you nonnie, we'll have to wait and see. Just keep in mind that DD was only ever intended to have one season and be part of the package Defenders deal with the other series. The worldwide success of the show is what gave it a S2, and if they wanted to build up Foggy's background they would have given it to us in S1 (maybe if we get a S3? yaaaas!). As much as I'd love to believe they're going to devote some time to Foggy's background next season, I feel like they bit off more than they should have with Karen so they have backed themselves into a corner and have to deal with her baggage now, not to mention Fisk and Lady Kingpin, AND they're bringing in Elektra, Bullseye, and the Punisher on top of all that. Plus they still have to build story/plot towards Danny/Iron Fist, Kun L'un, and the Chaste and Hand connections.

Our characters can't really afford to be the comics characters, there's no time, and they've already admitted to being Punisher-heavy in S2 so if they don't cock it all up with trying to do too much all at once like spec scripts suggest *cough*GOTHAM*cough* then we're going to be very lucky if we get any more Matt OR Foggy backstory. I love Foggy and I hope I'm wrong, but the only way I see they have enough time is if they order a back 9. *shrugs* We'll find out soon, that's for sure.

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