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Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an area in new york, like manhattan or harlem or queens or brooklyn. It's actually quite small. i imagine they call it their city because it sounds better than saying "my town," or "my community"

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
So, it's a neighborhood within the larger city. Okay.

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's a neighbourhood within Manhattan, in fact. :-)

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
In today's New York, it's not much of a "neighborhood," tbh. It's got some fun bars etc and can have a decent buzz, but it's a dense, gentrified area on the west side of Midtown. Anything that close to Times Square and the theater district isn't going to have much by way of ~grit~ or character today. It's just....city, with a fair number of tourists who turned the wrong way out of their theaters.

Which is why it's clever of the writers to use the Battle of New York to explain why Hell's Kitchen has gone back to the sleazier days of the first Daredevil comics.

But long story short...the Hell's Kitchen of DD might as well be a fictional locale, for all the resemblance it bears to reality. Much of the show is filmed in Brooklyn.

(Source: living in NYC, dropped too much money at Hell's Kitchen bars last year while dating a guy who lived there, hah.)

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
SA

But in terms of specifics, it's west of 8th Ave to the Hudson, north of 34th st (i.e. Penn Station) and South of 59th st (i.e. Columbus Circle, the SW corner of Central Park).

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
From someone that lives on the other side of the ocean and has been to NYC once in her life for only two days, thanks. This is super interesting insight!

Re: Where exactly is Hell's Kitchen?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
To be picky...Manhattan, Queens, and Brooklyn (and the Bronx and Staten Island) are boroughs, a division of the city that is AFAIK unique to NYC. Each borough is its own state county and has elected officials.

Neighborhoods are within the boroughs. Their boundaries are more fluid since they're not official administrative units in the same way. Harlem and Hell's Kitchen are neighborhoods in Manhattan; Crown Heights and Williamsburg are neighborhoods in Brooklyn, etc.

When Matt and Fisk talk about cleaning up their city via Hell's Kitchen, I see it as them taking ownership of the bit of Manhattan that they think they can control. Maybe Fisk hopes to spread out from there and Donald Trump his way through the 5 boroughs, but it'd take a whole army of vigilantes to patrol all of Manhattan, let alone all of NYC. For Matt, fixing his city just means doing what he can to fix his backyard. No one would ever refer to Hell's Kitchen as a city in and of itself.
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