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(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-06 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
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This reminds me a lot of the word "retard" tho. I think in the US it's still considered okay to use it, even amongst medical professionals, but in other countries it's a really offensive word to use.

(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-07 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
'retard' is definitely considered derogatory in the US too

maybe not as extremely in some places but I wouldn't use it and I'd be taken aback by anyone who did

(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-08 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
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(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-08 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
By pretty much all of the developmentally disabled/intellectually disabled community, it is absolutely not okay to say or use r*tard, and there have been huge (and in many places very successful) campaigns to stop everyone from using it, because it is such a dehumanizing slur. Some neurotypical/ableist people still use, mind you, but in a lot of greater social contexts (newspapers etc) it is considered extremely did-you-just-fucking-say-that taken-aback offensive.

(Apologies if I come off as angry--I mean more to be educational, because as a mentally disabled person from the US, it's kind of an important issue to me).

(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I find this one interesting, because it's actually a case of the reverse of some of these.

Speaking from personal experience, I remember when I figured out that "jewing the price down" was an ethnic slur. (My brain had made a connection to "jaw," instead.) Similarly for "gyp." I don't know that I've ever used "spaz," but if I have, it was probably self-referential, and referred to a moment when I approximated somebody having actual spasms. ("I was so excited because I knew the answer that I couldn't spit it out! I just spazzed instead [referring to the jerky, uncontrollable motions my body went through], and my opponent won.") I'm not sure whether I should stop using that term or not. (For the record, I am American.)

But "retard" has a much older meaning, meaning "to stop or slow." It's pronounced differently when used that way, with the accent on the second syllable, but pronunciation isn't communicated online. I stay away from the accent-on-the-first-syllable version of "retard" for the reasons given above. But, since I have been known to talk about how "dear" something is when I mean "expensive," (and remember! I'm American!) I am quite capable of having my brain in another century or culture and using the other meaning of "retard." And both "retarded"s are pronounced the same, anyhow.

This post doesn't really have a point, except me musing about the etymology of certain words. In case you're wondering.

(frozen comment) Re: Um. Ableism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
No, 'retard' is really offensive in the U.S. as well, and is definitely not used by medical professionals (except perhaps in its verb form, ie 'to retard the growth').

This doesn't mean people don't say it, but it's definitely a slur with negative implications.