It’s funny, I could see glimpses of Matt/Karen during season 1. Obviously Karen’s mega crush on Matt was easy to identify, but Matt played some scenes where I could see them together. His breakdown that he can’t do this alone late in season 1 comes to mind. But then I hated everything about them getting together in season 2. It felt so forced, like Matt knew Karen had a thing for him and he should try to reciprocate it and live more of a ‘normal’ life. And then of course Elektra showed up and everything went to hell.

I do think Deborah and Charlie have great chemistry together as friends and I think it could be extended into a romance. I just want it to be something they both truly want, and they had way too many secrets before. Now that Karen knows Matt is Daredevil helps, but she’s still hiding the Wesley killing, plus whatever is in her mysterious past. I want it all laid out and I want both of them to truly accept each other with their flaws/backgrounds before they begin a romantic relationship. Which probably the writers will never let happen because that makes too much sense and they’ll want it messy and complicated lol

And yes, going back to Suits, Harvey and Donna had a unique friendship that was vaguely flirty but platonic. Then it changed and it felt like all the flirting was due to real feelings buried beneath. Ugh. Why do writers have to be so predictable sometimes?