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HAHA. my tumblr is mattmurderdocks, idk if you already follow me there or not.

the good news is that even if dd 18 ends in The Darkest Timeline (aka the scenario i just described) that'll just be....the pre-secret wars ending? considering everything's getting reset after this event? charles soule already talked about bringing matt back to new york, plus he's wearing his daredevil suit in the new run, so...i guess this ending is sort of inconsequential? which is a bummer for mark waid since that pretty much renders his entire run irrelevant in the face of the new soule run, but eh. we'll see how it goes.

OH HUH I already am following you.

well that is just. kind of sad. since the new run seems to be p much undoing a lot of things that happened to Matt (and I'm still not sure how to feel about Matt being a prosecutor), not just the Waid run. but like. I kind of want to see how things would've panned out for Matt in the darkest timeline had Secret Wars not interrupted and oh boy I'm going to have to rework that fic now aren't I.

I am SO not down with this prosecutor BS. As a fan of DD since the mid-80s, I'm worried that I may not be able to stick with the book. I hope it proves me wrong, but.... ugh.

Charles Soule being an actual freakin' practicing lawyer when he's not writing comics (overachiever much, lol) fills me with faith that he's made that choice for an interesting artistic reason and that it will probably be one of the better portrayals of Matt Murdock as a lawyer that we ever see. That was certainly the case with She-Hulk.

And re: the Secret Wars reset, I'm actually more interested to see what will happen because it means that Waid may get to actually tell a complete story and *gasp* end the story of 616 Matt altogether if he wants. Which is actually a huge deal and means for all we know he could kill them all!

That's so insane to me because when else would you ever get to do that? And you have to admit that 616 Matt's life story has become an unrelenting storm of tragedies at this point. If the plan is to go back to a darker DD would we really wanna do that to him? Yikes.

AYRT

Soule could be doing it for interesting artistic reasons, or he could be doing it because of personal bias. I have no idea.

I just know that we live in a nation where the criminal justice system is hugely stacked against the accused, where people die in jail awaiting trial for misdemeanors because they can't meet bail, where shows like Law & Order lionize prosecutors and law enforcement - even glorifying brutality.

It's so rare to get good-guy defenders in fiction. Instead you get slimeballs like Saul Goodman. And now they're taking one of those good guy defenders away from us. And I don't like it. I'm willing to give it a chance. I'm willing to be won over. But I think Matt Murdock as a defense attorney was important and I don't like that we're losing that.

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the above comment is exactly why i am concerned about this. i'm totally willing to read the new book by soule, i think something interesting could be done if matt uses his daredevilling to help people who are innocent, but i REALLY question the timing of this considering the criminal justice system + how suspects are treated is a hot button issue right now, and matt was LITERALLY anti-police brutality in past stories (in volume three he literally takes on a unit of racist cops who are determined to murder the person he was defending along with others).

i just don't know if taking a character who symbolized justice for the unheard and making him work for that same system that harmed people he's defended in the past is A Good Idea.

AYRT

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So I am the poster who said I have faith in Charles Soule.

On that note, I did actually bring your concerns up to him today in the Marvel panel at a convention I am at and ask him to clarify why he made the choice he made and where he thinks the value is in taking away one of the few "good guy" defenders out there.

First off, he agreed that too often defense attorneys end up the bad guys. But he stated that the choice to make Matt a prosecutor is based on a few things (to sum up what he answered and paraphrase it from my memory):

While we haven't had a lot of good guy defenders in general media, in the Marvel Universe specifically he feels that between Matt, Foggy, Jen Walters and other characters, there's actually never really been a heroic prosecutor in that world. So he thought it was ripe to explore in that sense.

He really, really wants to bring a fresh take to Matt and felt that it's hard to do that with stories of him defending people because it's been done over and over. He's interested in what happens when there's no longer such a strong conflict between his day job and his night job.

He's knowledgeable enough about how DA's operate to be interested in the fact that being a DA means night shifts, crazy hours, different levels of accountability and is just apparently fascinating to write about. He described being a DA (based on what he understands from DA's he knows) as being something like the show Night Court and thinks it will generate some interesting stories people haven't seen before that have some realism.

Apparently, everyone in Marvel is also extremely excited at Ron Garney's art and think it's game-changing.

He also said that he didn't watch the Netflix Daredevil series until after he came up with his take, because he didn't want one to impact the other. When another panellist asked him if he feels pressure to conform to the Netflix show now, he basically said that he's gonna deliver his take on Daredevil regardless of what anyone else is doing and tell the best story he can tell.

I don't know how much that really helps anyone who's worrying about it, but it sounds like we're going to get a very different, but also very well thought out and unique, take on the character.

Thank you for this, nonny. I've heard about 6 different interviews with Charles recently and he said a lot of the same things he said to you, so I'm just hoping and praying that we like the new Matt. Charles definitely sounds really jazzed about it, but in one interview he said he was rethinking himself more writing this run of DD than he ever has before. Mostly because he's worried about filling some really big shoes, a lot of Eisner winners who have written DD before him. I wish him well, I hope he does well, because I want to see a new take on Matt, yesss. I'm only a little concerned that Foggy will be present but not quite so accountable? I'm not sure what that means. :\

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