I'm curious, where do you see the differences between his characterization in the comics and the MCU? In your own stories, do you sometimes let them bleed into each other, or use the comics as a helping guideline when you're not sure how Matt would likely react in a given situation? Do you have a version of Matt you prefer?
I definitely blend them together. There are so many versions of Matt in the comics that it is easy to come up with different reactions all the time. For example, Waid's Murdock is so different than Miller's Murdock. I think the root of his personality remains mostly the same though. He has a temper. He has depressive/manic episodes. He needs Foggy to keep him grounded. No relationship ever ends well. He is self sacrificing. And he loves being Daredevil. (and sometimes he is a complete ass, lol)
The version of Matt that I prefer... It's a blend. I love MCU Matt. I love his day-old stubble and hairy face, how he is a little shabby. He teases Foggy and feeds him to the sharks with a smile. He is a worry wart when it comes to his friends- "You can't do this! there are bad people out there!". I love that when Foggy and Karen confess to running around at night with mace and a baseball bat he has a fit. I love that he's all beaten up and an barely move and decides he's going to take on Fisk anyway because his temper is up and he has no idea how badly injured he is and he does not know how to STOP. I think the core of his being is - he always gets back up no matter what. He doesn't know how to stop fighting. I love that as Daredevil he gets muggers off the street, and that as Matt Murdock he is a defence attorney I love that others see Matt Murdock as Foggy's sidekick.
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Comic wise.. I do not like when they mess with the key story. I like Hell's Kitchen Daredevil. I don't like when he pushes Foggy away. I don't like when he isn't a defence attorney. I enjoyed the happy nature of Waid's run, but at the same time those stories were so... I don't know. Fanfic is often so much better and more believable than the comic runs. Weird, right? But then in the comics there are parts that are absolutely fabulous, little moments that stand out. But sadly for the most part- I really prefer the MCU and the fanfic we make here over the comics. I think I may be a little burnt at how they took the fluffy ending from Waid's run and turned it into... something else entirely. I don't trust comics. (but I did work in a comic store for 10 years! Never trust the damn cover is what I came away with from that.)
I think that as others have stated, different comics writers characterize Matt differently.
The version of Matt closest to MCU is Brian Michael Bendis'. That version of Matt is just an epic mess, but he tries so hard to keep it together and is just overwhelmed all the time. He also has the strongest, best characterization of his relationship with Foggy similar to the MCU - Foggy frequently calls him out on his shit, and steps up to the plate to help Matt as best he can but also gets into his own trouble. That Matt is super flirtatious with his future wife, Milla, in the way we see Matt be in the MCU but also is impulsive, way too attached to the suit and being Daredevil, and doesn't listen to anyone else before diving head first into a bad idea.
Waid's Daredevil embodies all the most charming, cheeky and egotistical aspects of Matt. Like, he's sexy and he knows it, basically. And Waid's run portrays his friendship with Foggy with the most warmth and compassion between them.
So it kind of depends of what version of Matt you're looking for which comics you enjoy and how much you blend him with the MCU Matt in fic, really.
I will say that, a bit off-topic, I super enjoy the comics characterization of Foggy a lot even if I find the MCU version better written and more consistent. And damn I wish that Elden would get to rock a porkpie hat and bowtie at some point. Foggy in the comics is my style icon.
Also, I suspect that Soule's Matt will be closer to Bendis' characterization than Waid's, since he already in just the one issue appears to be kind of a full-on trainwreck who has secluded himself in an elevator shaft and seems to have put the gas pedal on his Daredeviling and rage issues. So it should be interesting to see where the comics take him now, even if I understand that some people aren't feeling the huge departure in tone and style.
In the fic I read and write, it's definitely all MCU!Matt. I'm not a big fan of comics in general, especially the older ones :x
That said, I did start reading Waid's run a few days ago and it's heaps of fun. VERY different from the MCU!Matt, though. Like the anon said above, this Matt is so relentlessly cheeky and funny ("sexy and he knows it" is accurate!) and the relationship between him and Foggy is fantastic.
For Foggy otoh, I definitely blend MCU!Foggy with Waid!Foggy. To be absolutely honest, I didn't like MCU!Foggy at first because he was a bit grating, though he grew on me eventually. But now, after reading the comics, he's just the most adorable, sweetest, bestest friend Matt could ever have and he deserves the world. <3
Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?
(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?
(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)There are so many versions of Matt in the comics that it is easy to come up with different reactions all the time. For example, Waid's Murdock is so different than Miller's Murdock.
I think the root of his personality remains mostly the same though. He has a temper. He has depressive/manic episodes. He needs Foggy to keep him grounded. No relationship ever ends well. He is self sacrificing. And he loves being Daredevil. (and sometimes he is a complete ass, lol)
Re: Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?
(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)It's a blend. I love MCU Matt.
I love his day-old stubble and hairy face, how he is a little shabby. He teases Foggy and feeds him to the sharks with a smile.
He is a worry wart when it comes to his friends- "You can't do this! there are bad people out there!". I love that when Foggy and Karen confess to running around at night with mace and a baseball bat he has a fit.
I love that he's all beaten up and an barely move and decides he's going to take on Fisk anyway because his temper is up and he has no idea how badly injured he is and he does not know how to STOP.
I think the core of his being is - he always gets back up no matter what. He doesn't know how to stop fighting.
I love that as Daredevil he gets muggers off the street, and that as Matt Murdock he is a defence attorney
I love that others see Matt Murdock as Foggy's sidekick.
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Comic wise.. I do not like when they mess with the key story.
I like Hell's Kitchen Daredevil.
I don't like when he pushes Foggy away.
I don't like when he isn't a defence attorney.
I enjoyed the happy nature of Waid's run, but at the same time those stories were so... I don't know. Fanfic is often so much better and more believable than the comic runs. Weird, right?
But then in the comics there are parts that are absolutely fabulous, little moments that stand out. But sadly for the most part- I really prefer the MCU and the fanfic we make here over the comics.
I think I may be a little burnt at how they took the fluffy ending from Waid's run and turned it into... something else entirely. I don't trust comics. (but I did work in a comic store for 10 years! Never trust the damn cover is what I came away with from that.)
Re: Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?
(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)The version of Matt closest to MCU is Brian Michael Bendis'. That version of Matt is just an epic mess, but he tries so hard to keep it together and is just overwhelmed all the time. He also has the strongest, best characterization of his relationship with Foggy similar to the MCU - Foggy frequently calls him out on his shit, and steps up to the plate to help Matt as best he can but also gets into his own trouble. That Matt is super flirtatious with his future wife, Milla, in the way we see Matt be in the MCU but also is impulsive, way too attached to the suit and being Daredevil, and doesn't listen to anyone else before diving head first into a bad idea.
Waid's Daredevil embodies all the most charming, cheeky and egotistical aspects of Matt. Like, he's sexy and he knows it, basically. And Waid's run portrays his friendship with Foggy with the most warmth and compassion between them.
So it kind of depends of what version of Matt you're looking for which comics you enjoy and how much you blend him with the MCU Matt in fic, really.
I will say that, a bit off-topic, I super enjoy the comics characterization of Foggy a lot even if I find the MCU version better written and more consistent. And damn I wish that Elden would get to rock a porkpie hat and bowtie at some point. Foggy in the comics is my style icon.
Also, I suspect that Soule's Matt will be closer to Bendis' characterization than Waid's, since he already in just the one issue appears to be kind of a full-on trainwreck who has secluded himself in an elevator shaft and seems to have put the gas pedal on his Daredeviling and rage issues. So it should be interesting to see where the comics take him now, even if I understand that some people aren't feeling the huge departure in tone and style.
Re: Matt's characterization - comics VS MCU?
(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 12:55 am (UTC)(link)That said, I did start reading Waid's run a few days ago and it's heaps of fun. VERY different from the MCU!Matt, though. Like the anon said above, this Matt is so relentlessly cheeky and funny ("sexy and he knows it" is accurate!) and the relationship between him and Foggy is fantastic.
For Foggy otoh, I definitely blend MCU!Foggy with Waid!Foggy. To be absolutely honest, I didn't like MCU!Foggy at first because he was a bit grating, though he grew on me eventually. But now, after reading the comics, he's just the most adorable, sweetest, bestest friend Matt could ever have and he deserves the world. <3