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Discussion/Off-Topic Post #1
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OP:
You have thE best sight ever. I stared at it like 5 min and couldnt see shit
You have thE best sight ever. I stared at it like 5 min and couldnt see shit
Thread OP
There's more here at a twitter post abt it:
http://t.co/H5HY5QwUXS
There's more here at a twitter post abt it:
http://t.co/H5HY5QwUXS
Lol, I meant 616!Peter's comment in Shadowland, but this works too. :D
AYRT: Probably not? It took me knowing it was there to see it; my eyesight's not that spectacular.
I think it also helps if the video is playing? The chain moves as he walkes and is a touch more visible.
I think it also helps if the video is playing? The chain moves as he walkes and is a touch more visible.
just a shoutout to everyone who has written ot3 fic for the avocado squad, it is my jam and i'm so excited every time i see it on the meme!!!
I signed up but, wow, I have a feeling I already flunked. Like, I really wasn't trying to make it so that no prompts would match my fill offer? And I really was trying to do a prompt someone could have fun filling in 1,000 words?
(And some of the requirements are a little frustrating; I told whoever gets my prompt to ignore the relationship required by AO3 if they felt like it. And why you no have "Matt Murdock & Jonathan 'Jack' Murdock," AO3? Especially when apparently "Matt Murdock & Jennifer Walters" is a tag?)
So, to sum up: I fail at signing up for gift exchanges, which must be why I've never tried before now. (I just hope I do get a fic I feel capable of filling, and that I do a decent job of filling it.) And it's really kind of worrying that AO3 doesn't recognize Matt & Jack. Or have Father Lanthom as a character. Just saying. (Although my stupid browser kept freezing due to a script on the page, which might by why I couldn't find those tags.)
(And some of the requirements are a little frustrating; I told whoever gets my prompt to ignore the relationship required by AO3 if they felt like it. And why you no have "Matt Murdock & Jonathan 'Jack' Murdock," AO3? Especially when apparently "Matt Murdock & Jennifer Walters" is a tag?)
So, to sum up: I fail at signing up for gift exchanges, which must be why I've never tried before now. (I just hope I do get a fic I feel capable of filling, and that I do a decent job of filling it.) And it's really kind of worrying that AO3 doesn't recognize Matt & Jack. Or have Father Lanthom as a character. Just saying. (Although my stupid browser kept freezing due to a script on the page, which might by why I couldn't find those tags.)
It was my browser freezing. I found it as "Jonathan 'Jack' Murdock & Matt Murdock" instead. Stupid me.
OP:
Thank you. The quality of that shot is way betetr than teh quality of the video i found.
Not funny times are coming for Matt.
We are still +6 months to go D:
Thank you. The quality of that shot is way betetr than teh quality of the video i found.
Not funny times are coming for Matt.
We are still +6 months to go D:
Other than here and tumblr (which sucks on my old ancient mobile), where do you guys go for DD discussion? Whether they're news sites, meta, or anything else, I'd really love some recs.
I also had some problems, anon. 'Matt Murdock/Any' isn't a tag, and nor is 'Undernegotiated kink'.Where do you add notes? I tried to put 'no ageplay or bestiality' in my offer's optional tags but it was rejected and now iI'm really worried that I'll get something I Can Not Write.
OP - AO3 has the tags, it just hasn't associated them with Daredevil for some reason. :S
I will do my best to make sure everyone matches well.
At some point today I will update it so thay there is a details box for offers so people can clarify, and then you can edit your sign-up to add that if you would like. :)
At some point today I will update it so thay there is a details box for offers so people can clarify, and then you can edit your sign-up to add that if you would like. :)
Can somebody explain the Civil War storyline to a non-comics fan? (I read x-men which isn't really helpful here)
As it stands I can't see what the fight is about. Tony Stark thinks anybody running around in a costume should be registered, why does everybody have a problem with that? Currently anybody running around in a costume will be arrested and jailed if they're caught. Why is expecting to be registered so bad?
How would you even prove somebody is a superhero. You don't have to be a superhero, it doesn't show up in your DNA. Why didn't Spiderman go, oh since rampant viglantism is having a dreadful effect on law & order and general morality, I'll burn the costume and stop, and if anyone fleeing the police runs past me I'll just stick my foot out and trip them up.
Is there some issue or deeper problem here? I don't get it and I'd really like to because angst-filled fighting over points of principle where no one is exactly right and no one is exactly wrong makes my heart pitter-patter - but as it stands I'm mostly just confused.
As it stands I can't see what the fight is about. Tony Stark thinks anybody running around in a costume should be registered, why does everybody have a problem with that? Currently anybody running around in a costume will be arrested and jailed if they're caught. Why is expecting to be registered so bad?
How would you even prove somebody is a superhero. You don't have to be a superhero, it doesn't show up in your DNA. Why didn't Spiderman go, oh since rampant viglantism is having a dreadful effect on law & order and general morality, I'll burn the costume and stop, and if anyone fleeing the police runs past me I'll just stick my foot out and trip them up.
Is there some issue or deeper problem here? I don't get it and I'd really like to because angst-filled fighting over points of principle where no one is exactly right and no one is exactly wrong makes my heart pitter-patter - but as it stands I'm mostly just confused.
OP again - it will not let me change that now, so just email the daredevilficchallenge@gmail.com email if you have reaally specific things you want me to take into consideration that the form will not allow.
Thanks! I'm pretty open in what I can write, it's really just kids (and pretend kids) and animals I can't deal with.
Soooo... the thing about Civil War is that it doesn't necessarily make a whole lot of sense. Here it is explained by me though - this will likely be a loooong post.
First off, the 616 universe does not work like our world. Vigilantes are basically never arrested or jailed. The cops most often look the other way, even towards ones like Punisher who kill people, because... well a super-powered villain is not usually something a regular beat cop is gonna be able to handle, basically. Also, the vigilantes are not the only ones with secret identities - by the time Civil War rolls around, there are a few Avengers being sanctioned by higher authorities whose identities are unknown including Spider-Man.
It starts with Tony realizing that there is growing public sentiment against superheroes. People are starting to get bored of having them around and actually be bothered by them - they don't have a lot of accountability, there's not transparency with them and in the case of the ones whose identities are secret there's no way to, for example, hold them responsible or sue them for damages if they're causing problems. The public also starts to get annoyed that supervillains increasingly can't be held in prisons, the heroes refuse to kill them, and often the supervillains only exist and cause mayhem because of a beef with a hero to begin with. So things are tense.
In response to this, Tony and a secret cabal of higher-up heroes who don't normally work together (Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Professor X, Black Bolt and Black Panther) all agree that actions need to be taken behind the scenes. They start working with the government to ensure that any legislation winds up in their favour and protects the community, and also jettison the Hulk into space. Because he basically represents everything the public hates about the heroes and they know they can't contain him.
Then, a group of young superheroes filming a reality TV show called The New Warriors stupidly chase a supervillain they think they can take into a school zone. It turns out the supervillain is super-juiced up on a new Mutant Growth Hormone that's emerging, and he explodes himself, taking almost all of the New Warriors except one member AND approximately 700 or so schoolchildren with him.
Tinder meet match, basically.
Tony has no choice but to immediately put the best possible government plan into action to register all heroes and disallow secret identities. The difference being that now, not only will vigilantes or local heroes potentially be arrested because law enforcement will be a must, there will also be government teams specifically put together to arrest and capture non-registered heroes.
Tony does this because he knows from his government contacts that the plans prior to his group's negotiations were very extreme - banning certain technologies altogether, chipping and tracking heroes, de-powering them or imprisoning them, etc. So to him registration is the best option and if they don't all go along with it, worse things are inevitable.
Steve, having not been let in on Tony's secret group or knowing this and not probably being willing to go along with it anyway which is why they didn't invite him, basically says "fuck you" to the government when they ask him to work with them to get heroes registered. He teams up with a bunch of the street heroes and heroes who object to go underground and fight the law.
So you then have a situation where Tony is backed into more and more of a corner by public sentiment calling for hero's heads and government legislation to be tougher and tougher, eventually building armor for the government and imprisoning his own friends who he can't make understand that he's trying to help them. And Steve can't back down either because registration represents everything he's against as a strong libertarian who believes that you shouldn't disincentivize people from doing the right thing and helping people if you can.
They nearly kill each other. Tony kind of wins, but then it's revealed that the Skrulls were secretly manipulating the whole thing the whole time and everyone in the 616 pretty much forgets any of it ever happened. (In fact, Tony gets his mind straight-up wiped so he literally forgets it all). The end?
It could have potentially been a really great "Who watches the Watchmen?" type of thing. Instead it was super-angsty whump if you're into that kind of thing and kind of a mess after the fact.
First off, the 616 universe does not work like our world. Vigilantes are basically never arrested or jailed. The cops most often look the other way, even towards ones like Punisher who kill people, because... well a super-powered villain is not usually something a regular beat cop is gonna be able to handle, basically. Also, the vigilantes are not the only ones with secret identities - by the time Civil War rolls around, there are a few Avengers being sanctioned by higher authorities whose identities are unknown including Spider-Man.
It starts with Tony realizing that there is growing public sentiment against superheroes. People are starting to get bored of having them around and actually be bothered by them - they don't have a lot of accountability, there's not transparency with them and in the case of the ones whose identities are secret there's no way to, for example, hold them responsible or sue them for damages if they're causing problems. The public also starts to get annoyed that supervillains increasingly can't be held in prisons, the heroes refuse to kill them, and often the supervillains only exist and cause mayhem because of a beef with a hero to begin with. So things are tense.
In response to this, Tony and a secret cabal of higher-up heroes who don't normally work together (Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Professor X, Black Bolt and Black Panther) all agree that actions need to be taken behind the scenes. They start working with the government to ensure that any legislation winds up in their favour and protects the community, and also jettison the Hulk into space. Because he basically represents everything the public hates about the heroes and they know they can't contain him.
Then, a group of young superheroes filming a reality TV show called The New Warriors stupidly chase a supervillain they think they can take into a school zone. It turns out the supervillain is super-juiced up on a new Mutant Growth Hormone that's emerging, and he explodes himself, taking almost all of the New Warriors except one member AND approximately 700 or so schoolchildren with him.
Tinder meet match, basically.
Tony has no choice but to immediately put the best possible government plan into action to register all heroes and disallow secret identities. The difference being that now, not only will vigilantes or local heroes potentially be arrested because law enforcement will be a must, there will also be government teams specifically put together to arrest and capture non-registered heroes.
Tony does this because he knows from his government contacts that the plans prior to his group's negotiations were very extreme - banning certain technologies altogether, chipping and tracking heroes, de-powering them or imprisoning them, etc. So to him registration is the best option and if they don't all go along with it, worse things are inevitable.
Steve, having not been let in on Tony's secret group or knowing this and not probably being willing to go along with it anyway which is why they didn't invite him, basically says "fuck you" to the government when they ask him to work with them to get heroes registered. He teams up with a bunch of the street heroes and heroes who object to go underground and fight the law.
So you then have a situation where Tony is backed into more and more of a corner by public sentiment calling for hero's heads and government legislation to be tougher and tougher, eventually building armor for the government and imprisoning his own friends who he can't make understand that he's trying to help them. And Steve can't back down either because registration represents everything he's against as a strong libertarian who believes that you shouldn't disincentivize people from doing the right thing and helping people if you can.
They nearly kill each other. Tony kind of wins, but then it's revealed that the Skrulls were secretly manipulating the whole thing the whole time and everyone in the 616 pretty much forgets any of it ever happened. (In fact, Tony gets his mind straight-up wiped so he literally forgets it all). The end?
It could have potentially been a really great "Who watches the Watchmen?" type of thing. Instead it was super-angsty whump if you're into that kind of thing and kind of a mess after the fact.
Are we supposed to be able to see a list of users that have signed up? Because I can see them.
Also, Spider-Man first sides with Tony, reveals his identify, changes his mind and sides with Cap, and then realizes "Why am I even paying attention to this bullshit? Aunt May died during all of this..." and makes a weird deal with Mephisto that also resets everything he did during Civil War.
And Thor was dead before any of this even happened, so Tony at one point uses a Thor clone to create a bunch of lightning and scare everyone. Thor is super-pissed about that when he comes back from the dead.
Hawkeye is also pissed when he comes back from the dead in the middle of all this, but that's a whoooooole other story.
Guys... comics are fucking weird. :S
Hawkeye is also pissed when he comes back from the dead in the middle of all this, but that's a whoooooole other story.
Guys... comics are fucking weird. :S
SA - And now I feel like I'll get some crap from people because my explanation was actually somewhat pro-Tony.
I need to clarify Steve's side. Why don't the heroes want to register? Well, because it means trusting the government with their real name. Which means it could leak. Which, for the ones like Peter who has Mary Jane and Aunt May to think about would put them in immense danger. Because every supervillain who has a beef with them will immediately know just who to attack.
(This is somewhat validated by the fact that at one point the government actually ENTRUSTS NORMAN OSBORN to be the guy in charge of that list! Seriously.)
Also, for a lot of them they just don't need the hassle but hate that it would mean not helping people. Like, if Luke Cage doesn't want to work for the government and deal with bureaucracy (and potentially preclude himself from having another job because he's officially a hero), he then has to stand around while a guy robs a bank and not step in? For a lot of them, that's the opposite of who they are. They just want to help people without all the bullshit. And they don't want to be penalized for that.
Which is kind of fair when you think about it. It's why we have good samaritan laws in place in our real world to protect people who try to step in and help someone.
So it's really an issue of not trusting big government and bureaucracy and wanting to protect your family and the people you love. Which hits a nerve for a ton of the heroes.
I need to clarify Steve's side. Why don't the heroes want to register? Well, because it means trusting the government with their real name. Which means it could leak. Which, for the ones like Peter who has Mary Jane and Aunt May to think about would put them in immense danger. Because every supervillain who has a beef with them will immediately know just who to attack.
(This is somewhat validated by the fact that at one point the government actually ENTRUSTS NORMAN OSBORN to be the guy in charge of that list! Seriously.)
Also, for a lot of them they just don't need the hassle but hate that it would mean not helping people. Like, if Luke Cage doesn't want to work for the government and deal with bureaucracy (and potentially preclude himself from having another job because he's officially a hero), he then has to stand around while a guy robs a bank and not step in? For a lot of them, that's the opposite of who they are. They just want to help people without all the bullshit. And they don't want to be penalized for that.
Which is kind of fair when you think about it. It's why we have good samaritan laws in place in our real world to protect people who try to step in and help someone.
So it's really an issue of not trusting big government and bureaucracy and wanting to protect your family and the people you love. Which hits a nerve for a ton of the heroes.
I think so? I can't see what the issue would be with seeing the names of the other sign-ups...
NA honestly for a more in depth perspective on this opinion you only need to read Daredevil:Born Again, Nocenti's 'Typhoid Mary' arc, Bendis and Brubaker's runs, and/or Mark Waid's run. Matt's life gets dismantled over and over because people know his secret identity and use it to get really really personal. Like, destroy his livelihood, sanity, relationships, and kill all his loved ones type personal. Heroes, especially ones that aren't top-tier government protected Avengers, have real and serious reasons to not want to go public. And those reasons are exemplified by Matt's life lmao
In theory Civil War should have been great because both sides have a point but IRL I like to think of 2006-2010 as Marvel's melodramatic emo period.
In theory Civil War should have been great because both sides have a point but IRL I like to think of 2006-2010 as Marvel's melodramatic emo period.
What issue is this?
SA as before - So emo. And I say this as a person who has the final panel of Civil War: Confessions where Tony sits over Steve's dead body all depressed hanging on my wall. I like emo, but yeah... talk about overwrought angst.
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