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Right? At least 4, I think? He kept getting them slashed and torn up and he always seemed to wearing a new one when he was out there again.
Some of my family members have ... Interesting interpretations of the deceased's wishes when it comes to funeral services.
When I was younger I started writing my own service for them while those that actually knew me have an Irish wake with an ice cream truck.
It starts with a somber, instrumental rendition of 'drop-kick me Jesus through the goal-posts of life'...
When I was younger I started writing my own service for them while those that actually knew me have an Irish wake with an ice cream truck.
It starts with a somber, instrumental rendition of 'drop-kick me Jesus through the goal-posts of life'...
OP - I'm super late on replying to this but I like your headcanon, nonny, and can totally agree with quite a bit of it! I'm so chatty tonight so please excuse my words words words.
Stick probably took as much of Matt's inheritance as the church would allow. But likely the church would have kept something of the inheritance as well, if not all the rest, because lbr, Jack probably didn't sink the money into a trust fund, and even if he did it's not like Matt has any family to act as trustee until Matt's of legal distribution age. The church would basically become the trustee acting in the place of the foster care system in the state (wrt the orphanage and caretaking, etc), so rather than the state eating up the inheritance to pay for state taxes, medical care, etc, it's the church. And Stick gets whatever the church was willing to part with, I guess. But I could totally be conflating reality with comic book reality which is probably never a good idea. ;)
Other nonnies have addressed a couple of your other points so I'll leave those alone, but Matt's couch, there's a lot of fanon that his couch is crap. His couch is gorgeous end-to-end finished leather, not pleather, and it's really well made. That is not a sagging-in-the-middle-from-heavy-usage couch, that is a badass money item *I* would kill to have in my living room. His two matching club chairs are not as nice, but still, they freaking match. They look used, maybe he got them at a bargain price, but I'd like to point out that Matt picked seriously good quality stuff, OR someone picked those things for him. More than that, everything in his flat is of a similar style; the couch, the club chairs, the coffee table, even his bed. (My headcanon is Matt's tactile senses means he's going for what feels good, all buttersoft used leathers, and the soft chenille finish of those twin chairs. I want to say he had help, probably Foggy, because there's colour involved as well as texture and Foggy shows good usage of colour.) I'd assume for any fabrics he ever bought used, he'd need to steam clean them until he can actually stand to have them around without smelling ground in chips and semen and cat marking and who knows what else is on recovered items, yknow? A life lived on cloth furniture, they hold everything. I'm sure he's used to being thrifty, I can believe he'd try to save money where he could, and we do see his shaver, deodorant, etc, are all cheaper stuff, nothing fancy there, but take note that he actually cooks. He has food items stored on the cabinetry against the wall and vinegars and oils and heirloom tomatoes and spices set up in his kitchen sorted by braille, and he buys expensive import beer rather than domestic because flavour. He might not have much, but what's there are niiiice choices from a seriously picky, detail-oriented mind.
So I agree about Matt's food habits and ill-fitting clothes driving him nuts. Flappy or draggy or excess material, yeah, and NY is full of struggling young fashionistas and old school tailors who would kill to dress that fit body with their haberdashery, are you kidding? But Matt's fashion style seems much more likely to be the hand of some aged Italian tailor who feels out of touch with today's hot trends and is quite pleased to dress this pretty young canvas of an up-and-coming lawyer, maybe at a damned nice discount. I could see Matt befriending this old tailor and listening to stories of NYC while he's being measured for wear. They would have such a cute relationship, yknow, and it would explain a little why Matt refers to his city as his family. I have the feeling Foggy looks at Matt's clothes and thinks they're too old for Matt, that Matt should have younger style than what he wears, but Matt's perfectly comfortable with fit over flash. /headcanon
Matt doesn't need art on the walls or books or decor, he's a minimalist out of necessity rather than style, because he's blind and lots of tchotchkes are a recipe for disaster for someone with vision problems, not to mention dust mites. Someone has to clean that stuff and I'm sure Matt's got better things to do. But look at the few items he has; Matt's a believer in quality, not quantity. This pleases me. ♥
Stick probably took as much of Matt's inheritance as the church would allow. But likely the church would have kept something of the inheritance as well, if not all the rest, because lbr, Jack probably didn't sink the money into a trust fund, and even if he did it's not like Matt has any family to act as trustee until Matt's of legal distribution age. The church would basically become the trustee acting in the place of the foster care system in the state (wrt the orphanage and caretaking, etc), so rather than the state eating up the inheritance to pay for state taxes, medical care, etc, it's the church. And Stick gets whatever the church was willing to part with, I guess. But I could totally be conflating reality with comic book reality which is probably never a good idea. ;)
Other nonnies have addressed a couple of your other points so I'll leave those alone, but Matt's couch, there's a lot of fanon that his couch is crap. His couch is gorgeous end-to-end finished leather, not pleather, and it's really well made. That is not a sagging-in-the-middle-from-heavy-usage couch, that is a badass money item *I* would kill to have in my living room. His two matching club chairs are not as nice, but still, they freaking match. They look used, maybe he got them at a bargain price, but I'd like to point out that Matt picked seriously good quality stuff, OR someone picked those things for him. More than that, everything in his flat is of a similar style; the couch, the club chairs, the coffee table, even his bed. (My headcanon is Matt's tactile senses means he's going for what feels good, all buttersoft used leathers, and the soft chenille finish of those twin chairs. I want to say he had help, probably Foggy, because there's colour involved as well as texture and Foggy shows good usage of colour.) I'd assume for any fabrics he ever bought used, he'd need to steam clean them until he can actually stand to have them around without smelling ground in chips and semen and cat marking and who knows what else is on recovered items, yknow? A life lived on cloth furniture, they hold everything. I'm sure he's used to being thrifty, I can believe he'd try to save money where he could, and we do see his shaver, deodorant, etc, are all cheaper stuff, nothing fancy there, but take note that he actually cooks. He has food items stored on the cabinetry against the wall and vinegars and oils and heirloom tomatoes and spices set up in his kitchen sorted by braille, and he buys expensive import beer rather than domestic because flavour. He might not have much, but what's there are niiiice choices from a seriously picky, detail-oriented mind.
So I agree about Matt's food habits and ill-fitting clothes driving him nuts. Flappy or draggy or excess material, yeah, and NY is full of struggling young fashionistas and old school tailors who would kill to dress that fit body with their haberdashery, are you kidding? But Matt's fashion style seems much more likely to be the hand of some aged Italian tailor who feels out of touch with today's hot trends and is quite pleased to dress this pretty young canvas of an up-and-coming lawyer, maybe at a damned nice discount. I could see Matt befriending this old tailor and listening to stories of NYC while he's being measured for wear. They would have such a cute relationship, yknow, and it would explain a little why Matt refers to his city as his family. I have the feeling Foggy looks at Matt's clothes and thinks they're too old for Matt, that Matt should have younger style than what he wears, but Matt's perfectly comfortable with fit over flash. /headcanon
Matt doesn't need art on the walls or books or decor, he's a minimalist out of necessity rather than style, because he's blind and lots of tchotchkes are a recipe for disaster for someone with vision problems, not to mention dust mites. Someone has to clean that stuff and I'm sure Matt's got better things to do. But look at the few items he has; Matt's a believer in quality, not quantity. This pleases me. ♥
OP - yes, you're sharing my brain, nonny. Matt calls his city his 'family' so he must have some old connections floating around, probably even people who knew Matt from when he was a tyke, from when Jack was still alive.
OP - Actually, the characters mention on the show they don't have money, specifically Foggy, who brings it up fair often even during the flashbacks scenes. Matt, otoh, is a little bit of a mystery.
Hahahaha oh god Matt could totally play it off if he wanted to
Yes he could. The fact that he's a lawyer probably puts him somewhere between 'cranky old lady threatening to beat you with her cane' and 'man with 11 hummingbirds taped to his dick' on a list of 'People I Would Like To Search'
I think there's a prompt about it in post 5 or 6. My addition to it was Matt sneaking into the coat room and casually walking out wearing 8 coats.
I think there's a prompt about it in post 5 or 6. My addition to it was Matt sneaking into the coat room and casually walking out wearing 8 coats.
I was thinking the lingering smells, especially on clothes that you don't want to look worn out from excessive washing.
Foggy would totally dumpster dive for work clothes, and Matt might for other items, but I feel like Matt would need the right circumstances (staking out a tailoring and alterations place or something) to get something more than casual clothes.
Foggy would totally dumpster dive for work clothes, and Matt might for other items, but I feel like Matt would need the right circumstances (staking out a tailoring and alterations place or something) to get something more than casual clothes.
AYRT
This is actually the theory that I've been working off of whenever I think about Lantom. I went to a Catholic university and the most fascinating part was listening to the priests and their stories about where they had gone and what they did. They all had really colorful backgrounds and had some surprising adventures.
This is actually the theory that I've been working off of whenever I think about Lantom. I went to a Catholic university and the most fascinating part was listening to the priests and their stories about where they had gone and what they did. They all had really colorful backgrounds and had some surprising adventures.
OP
Oh awesome! Glad to know I'm not alone in my theory. That sounds really cool! I'm a christened Catholic but ah, really really lapsed and the only experiences I have with priests is that I've gotten during Mass. And I've not been to Mass for oh probably a decade by now.
But I keep seeing Father Lantom as like, this missionary/volunteer who ended up in so many places. I've figured out a rough timeline for him - born in the 1940's; probably decided to become a priest in his late teens/early twenties. Did all the work for that; which takes about six years! Spends his late twenties/early thirties in Hell's Kitchen (where he meets a young Jack who is at the oldest in his early teens) which puts him into the 1970's. Spends time as a missionary in either the Pacific or Africa (or both) with brief periods in the United States (but not Hell's Kitchen) and by the early 1990's has been assigned to Rwanda. Gets out of there in the late 1990's or early 2000's - once all the Civil Wars in the region have stopped because I don't see him as the type of man to leave until he's sure he's done all he can. Possibly got pulled out because of all the wars? Either way, comes back to the United States and as soon as possible goes back to Hell's Kitchen because he's senior enough to have a choice and he wants to go home. And here he meets Matt- and then asks around to find out what happened to that Jack Murdock kid who'd told a young priest - who didn't yet believe the Devil was real - that he had the Devil in him.
Idk if that's a very accurate timeline... I've been trying to research it but it's still a lot of cobbling together and well, no personal experience. Also sorry to just unload my headcanon at you...
Oh awesome! Glad to know I'm not alone in my theory. That sounds really cool! I'm a christened Catholic but ah, really really lapsed and the only experiences I have with priests is that I've gotten during Mass. And I've not been to Mass for oh probably a decade by now.
But I keep seeing Father Lantom as like, this missionary/volunteer who ended up in so many places. I've figured out a rough timeline for him - born in the 1940's; probably decided to become a priest in his late teens/early twenties. Did all the work for that; which takes about six years! Spends his late twenties/early thirties in Hell's Kitchen (where he meets a young Jack who is at the oldest in his early teens) which puts him into the 1970's. Spends time as a missionary in either the Pacific or Africa (or both) with brief periods in the United States (but not Hell's Kitchen) and by the early 1990's has been assigned to Rwanda. Gets out of there in the late 1990's or early 2000's - once all the Civil Wars in the region have stopped because I don't see him as the type of man to leave until he's sure he's done all he can. Possibly got pulled out because of all the wars? Either way, comes back to the United States and as soon as possible goes back to Hell's Kitchen because he's senior enough to have a choice and he wants to go home. And here he meets Matt- and then asks around to find out what happened to that Jack Murdock kid who'd told a young priest - who didn't yet believe the Devil was real - that he had the Devil in him.
Idk if that's a very accurate timeline... I've been trying to research it but it's still a lot of cobbling together and well, no personal experience. Also sorry to just unload my headcanon at you...
Solicitations for Daredevil #1 & #2, both coming in December!
(Anonymous) 2015-09-15 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)DAREDEVIL #1 & 2
CHARLES SOULE (w) • RON GARNEY (a/C)
ISSUE #1 -- Action Figure Variant by JOHN TYLER CHRISTOPHER
HIP-HOP VARIANT BY ALEX MALEEV
Marvel '92 variant by Larry Stroman
VARIANT COVER BY TIM SALE
VARIANT COVER BY JOE QUESADA
COSPLAY VARIANT ALSO AVAILABLE
ISSUE #2 -- VARIANT COVER BY FRED HEMBECK
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
Back in black and on his home turf, Daredevil begins again in New York City as a new enemy emerges. Meanwhile his alter ego, Matt Murdock, is on a new side of the law in the District Attorney's office. Fighting crime in the shadows, prosecuting bad guys in the light, it's a whole new chapter for our man without fear -- including the arrival of the devil's advocate. Welcome to Hell, Blindspot.
32 PGS. (each)/Rated T+ ...$3.99 (each)
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/secret-wars-ends-a-force-totally-awesome-hulk-more-debut-in-marvels-december-2015-solicitations
CHARLES SOULE (w) • RON GARNEY (a/C)
ISSUE #1 -- Action Figure Variant by JOHN TYLER CHRISTOPHER
HIP-HOP VARIANT BY ALEX MALEEV
Marvel '92 variant by Larry Stroman
VARIANT COVER BY TIM SALE
VARIANT COVER BY JOE QUESADA
COSPLAY VARIANT ALSO AVAILABLE
ISSUE #2 -- VARIANT COVER BY FRED HEMBECK
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
Back in black and on his home turf, Daredevil begins again in New York City as a new enemy emerges. Meanwhile his alter ego, Matt Murdock, is on a new side of the law in the District Attorney's office. Fighting crime in the shadows, prosecuting bad guys in the light, it's a whole new chapter for our man without fear -- including the arrival of the devil's advocate. Welcome to Hell, Blindspot.
32 PGS. (each)/Rated T+ ...$3.99 (each)
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/secret-wars-ends-a-force-totally-awesome-hulk-more-debut-in-marvels-december-2015-solicitations
I just finished Alias and I gotta say, I fucking hate that Malcolm kid. Was he supposed to be completely unlikable? By the end I was honestly hoping the Purple Man would kill him horribly. What an obnoxious, unnecessary character.
But, uh, aside from that I really liked it. All the crap Jessica went through made her eventual triumph super satisfying.
But, uh, aside from that I really liked it. All the crap Jessica went through made her eventual triumph super satisfying.
DA
The klepto!Matt prompt! I loved that one.
The klepto!Matt prompt! I loved that one.
nayrt but ikr? I just never noticed before. In my defense it's kind of hard to think of anything but throwing matt down and yanking his clothes off when he's on the screen but now I have a reason for another rewatch!
Re: Solicitations for Daredevil #1 & #2, both coming in December!
(Anonymous) 2015-09-16 12:52 am (UTC)(link)eeeeeeeee!!!
Re: Solicitations for Daredevil #1 & #2, both coming in December!
(Anonymous) 2015-09-16 01:01 am (UTC)(link)Aw, December. I thought it was supposed to start in October. ):
i finished it the other week and then raced through the pulse as well haha (alias is definitely better but *shrugs* i love me some ben urich). she's just so damn cool?! and such a hot fucking mess.
i hope so too. i like all the stuff she has going on with matt as well... (i mean, was she actually like in love with him???????????? what was even going on with that omg)
i hope so too. i like all the stuff she has going on with matt as well... (i mean, was she actually like in love with him???????????? what was even going on with that omg)
I don't know who Matt's tailor could have been but it would be cool to think it's Melvin doing Matt's nice clothes after Melvin makes him the red devil suit. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions but didn't it look like Matt and Melvin were going to be friends in S2? Melvin deserves to have friends who might actually care about him and Matt deserves to have friends who can actually physically protect him. I know he has the Avengers in the comics, I know he's very close to some of them like extended family, but on the show he really needs another badass to watch his back. But I guess it would be pretty awesome if one of the Avengers actually did a guest spot on the show, maybe ask Matt to come join them? Seems like it has to happen eventually, and then Matt turns them down, natch.
ANYWAY Matt and Melvin? Friendship, bonding, maybe some tape measure flirting and sweet sex? If it's true Melvin is going to be the Gladiator in S2, I would definitely watch Melvin be Matt's tailor and also watch DD and Gladiator kicking ass together.
ANYWAY Matt and Melvin? Friendship, bonding, maybe some tape measure flirting and sweet sex? If it's true Melvin is going to be the Gladiator in S2, I would definitely watch Melvin be Matt's tailor and also watch DD and Gladiator kicking ass together.
DA
I think her thing for Matt was just a crush, but she's just a person of extremes so she took it as being in love with him, even though they barely knew each other. And she had a weirdly idealized view of Matt, so I think she liked the idea of him more than anything.
I really, really love her and Matt's friendship. They're both so messed up in similar ways and I think they would have been a very dysfunctional couple, but they're both so prone to making terrible life choices, so I'm honestly surprised that they didn't sleep together or date. Like I feel like they had a lot of potential to be a terrible combination and hurt each other, but instead they developed this awesome friendship that was good for them. I love it. I love that these two super damaged people manage to be a bright spot in each other's lives.
I think her thing for Matt was just a crush, but she's just a person of extremes so she took it as being in love with him, even though they barely knew each other. And she had a weirdly idealized view of Matt, so I think she liked the idea of him more than anything.
I really, really love her and Matt's friendship. They're both so messed up in similar ways and I think they would have been a very dysfunctional couple, but they're both so prone to making terrible life choices, so I'm honestly surprised that they didn't sleep together or date. Like I feel like they had a lot of potential to be a terrible combination and hurt each other, but instead they developed this awesome friendship that was good for them. I love it. I love that these two super damaged people manage to be a bright spot in each other's lives.
AYRT
yeah i was confused because she said she was in love but wasn't actually...taking it anywhere? and i kept waiting for them to fall into bed together because of matt's spectacular track record (and hers tbf). i like their friendship too - they are so similar ugh, so many issues between them, it's ridiculous. <3
i'm trying to remember, bc alias and bendis' dd run overlap(?) was jessica in that run?? i remember he did have a female body guard...it was her, right? ugh i need to go back and reread so much. (sorry if i'm assuming you've read stuff that you haven't oops)
yeah i was confused because she said she was in love but wasn't actually...taking it anywhere? and i kept waiting for them to fall into bed together because of matt's spectacular track record (and hers tbf). i like their friendship too - they are so similar ugh, so many issues between them, it's ridiculous. <3
i'm trying to remember, bc alias and bendis' dd run overlap(?) was jessica in that run?? i remember he did have a female body guard...it was her, right? ugh i need to go back and reread so much. (sorry if i'm assuming you've read stuff that you haven't oops)
AYRT
Heh, it's cool. I actually haven't read Bendis' DD, but I looked it up on a wiki and apparently Jess (and I think Luke) was in 11 issues of it.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jessica_Jones_(Earth-616)/Appearances
That gives me more motivation to read it, since I really wished that we had seen more of Jess and Luke as Matt's bodyguards. Even if it's just a little more, I really wanna see what they got up to in Daredevil.
Heh, it's cool. I actually haven't read Bendis' DD, but I looked it up on a wiki and apparently Jess (and I think Luke) was in 11 issues of it.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jessica_Jones_(Earth-616)/Appearances
That gives me more motivation to read it, since I really wished that we had seen more of Jess and Luke as Matt's bodyguards. Even if it's just a little more, I really wanna see what they got up to in Daredevil.
Re: Solicitations for Daredevil #1 & #2, both coming in December!
(Anonymous) 2015-09-16 02:54 am (UTC)(link)There's a primer book of sorts that's premiering "new" DD in October (All New, All-Different Marvel Point One #1 - how's that for a mouthful?)
Re: Solicitations for Daredevil #1 & #2, both coming in December!
(Anonymous) 2015-09-16 02:55 am (UTC)(link)SA
It's $5.99 for 56 pages. I don't know how long the DD story will be.
It's $5.99 for 56 pages. I don't know how long the DD story will be.
Not only do Bendis' run on DD and Alias overlap, but they actually complement one another. Alias fills in the other side of certain scenes in DD.
For example, when Luke and Jess are guarding his door, you see a woman come in to talk to Matt, then she leaves and her hair is a different colour and you realize it's Natasha. The DD series actually shows you Luke and Jess guarding Matt but then you see what Matt and Nat talked about. So if you re-read them both together, they're two sides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
Also, I took Jess' fixation on Matt to be related to the fact that Daredevil was the one who finally got the Purple Man arrested and took him down. She's not attracted to him until she suspects he might be Daredevil, and then she starts to admire him but also becomes obsessed with confirming that they are the same person. It made sense to me, because even though she was no longer under Killgrave's control when he fought Matt, it does make Matt kind of her hero because he did what she wasn't able to do and she probably wants to know how he does it or has him on a pedestal. And then, once she takes Killgrave out herself, it paves the way for her to get over Matt and be with Luke. That was my take anyway.
For example, when Luke and Jess are guarding his door, you see a woman come in to talk to Matt, then she leaves and her hair is a different colour and you realize it's Natasha. The DD series actually shows you Luke and Jess guarding Matt but then you see what Matt and Nat talked about. So if you re-read them both together, they're two sides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
Also, I took Jess' fixation on Matt to be related to the fact that Daredevil was the one who finally got the Purple Man arrested and took him down. She's not attracted to him until she suspects he might be Daredevil, and then she starts to admire him but also becomes obsessed with confirming that they are the same person. It made sense to me, because even though she was no longer under Killgrave's control when he fought Matt, it does make Matt kind of her hero because he did what she wasn't able to do and she probably wants to know how he does it or has him on a pedestal. And then, once she takes Killgrave out herself, it paves the way for her to get over Matt and be with Luke. That was my take anyway.
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