Hear! Hear! I am so sick of people hating of Foggy.
I feel like he does the best he can with the information he has. It was so clear MATT wanted to quit Daredeviling. He felt responsible for Elektra's death, and felt his involvement had made things worse. He had either stated as much, or Foggy had read between the lines, (honestly, I think the level of insight Foggy has with how in the dark he's been kept is pretty amazing and speaks not only to how well he knows Matt, but also to the fact that he tries so hard to read Matt and help shows just how much he cares about him.)
Since MATT wants to stop, but is clearly having a bad time, Foggy is trying to help. I think him calling him was twofold. One-are you okay? Two- this is something that probably made it hard to stay away from Daredevil, how are you doing? Do you want help?
As for the "Matt doesn't tell me anything," I'm not mad he said it. He had EVERY right. I'm mad Matt's doing it.
Matt, and so many fans, are seeing any push back Foggy gives as "judgment" and justifying his actions, but they are missing the fact he's really concerned, and has been more than justified any time he got "judgy." (Matt shrugging off getting shot and in the head, anger and worry justified. Matt not showing up to a case HE took on when Foggy didn't want to; anger justified. Asking Matt how he's doing when he was he may have backslided on a self-appointed goal? Good friend. Slightly frustrated he had to state what he did to get the truth, but understandable.)
Matt shut Foggy out. Not the other way around. (Yet he's the first next reach out to Matt time and time again). Matt chased him away because he didn't accept Matt being Daredevil whole-heartedly, no questions asked. That is a big ask when Daredevil endangers both Matt's life and both their careers. He was also unwilling to answer Foggy's questions be fully or truthfully, which seems to bother Foggy most.
Matt may feel he doesn't owe Foggy an explanation. Fair enough. But the he can't expect Foggy to blindly accept Daredevil. He either loops Foggy in, or he should expect push back when what Matt is doing doesn't match the Matt that was carefully presented to him for a decade, or make sense with what Foggy knows. Matt can't have both secrecy and complete acceptance.
Foggy doesn't trust Matt? Matt doesn't trust Foggy. He never gives him the full picture. He also gave him reason to not trust him by lying to him for most of their relationship. He said at the end of season 1DD that he knew he hadn't earned back Foggy's trust, which implied he knew he needed to, but yet after he asks Foggy to trust him away, and FOGGY DOES!, he goes back to lying and half-truths. So I'm sorry, but I call BS on Foggy "not trusting Matt to do the right thing" or "not trusting Matt is being Daredevil because he has to" because neither of those things are clear to Foggy, and Matt only he his own secrecy to blame for that.
Re: Episode 2 Discussion
I feel like he does the best he can with the information he has. It was so clear MATT wanted to quit Daredeviling. He felt responsible for Elektra's death, and felt his involvement had made things worse. He had either stated as much, or Foggy had read between the lines, (honestly, I think the level of insight Foggy has with how in the dark he's been kept is pretty amazing and speaks not only to how well he knows Matt, but also to the fact that he tries so hard to read Matt and help shows just how much he cares about him.)
Since MATT wants to stop, but is clearly having a bad time, Foggy is trying to help. I think him calling him was twofold. One-are you okay? Two- this is something that probably made it hard to stay away from Daredevil, how are you doing? Do you want help?
As for the "Matt doesn't tell me anything," I'm not mad he said it. He had EVERY right. I'm mad Matt's doing it.
Matt, and so many fans, are seeing any push back Foggy gives as "judgment" and justifying his actions, but they are missing the fact he's really concerned, and has been more than justified any time he got "judgy." (Matt shrugging off getting shot and in the head, anger and worry justified. Matt not showing up to a case HE took on when Foggy didn't want to; anger justified. Asking Matt how he's doing when he was he may have backslided on a self-appointed goal? Good friend. Slightly frustrated he had to state what he did to get the truth, but understandable.)
Matt shut Foggy out. Not the other way around. (Yet he's the first next reach out to Matt time and time again). Matt chased him away because he didn't accept Matt being Daredevil whole-heartedly, no questions asked. That is a big ask when Daredevil endangers both Matt's life and both their careers. He was also unwilling to answer Foggy's questions be fully or truthfully, which seems to bother Foggy most.
Matt may feel he doesn't owe Foggy an explanation. Fair enough. But the he can't expect Foggy to blindly accept Daredevil. He either loops Foggy in, or he should expect push back when what Matt is doing doesn't match the Matt that was carefully presented to him for a decade, or make sense with what Foggy knows. Matt can't have both secrecy and complete acceptance.
Foggy doesn't trust Matt? Matt doesn't trust Foggy. He never gives him the full picture. He also gave him reason to not trust him by lying to him for most of their relationship. He said at the end of season 1DD that he knew he hadn't earned back Foggy's trust, which implied he knew he needed to, but yet after he asks Foggy to trust him away, and FOGGY DOES!, he goes back to lying and half-truths. So I'm sorry, but I call BS on Foggy "not trusting Matt to do the right thing" or "not trusting Matt is being Daredevil because he has to" because neither of those things are clear to Foggy, and Matt only he his own secrecy to blame for that.