See, that's an interesting take. I thought it was a toxic environment but not only from Matt's side, it felt toxic all the way around once Matt and Karen wanted to take the Punisher trial. They all wanted different things from that trial and it fractured them in horrible ways, it set them at serious odds with each other and they felt wrong together. To me it felt like they all deserved better, not just Karen and Foggy. While Matt essentially went back to listening to Stick again and cutting his ties to Karen and Foggy on purpose, I can see why he ended up back in that place where he felt like he needed to. I was super crushed every time Foggy made nasty comments about Matt's mental state in the harshest way possible, that Matt needed a psych eval or said, in court, that Matt was just as crazy as Frank Castle, and quite obviously meant it, and said Matt needed to put the devilsuit back in the wacko box it came from. Which, wow, just wow.
Foggy just felt stuck in the gear between super crazy protective of Matt and super ultra disappointed with Matt, it's like he was angry all the time below the surface. It started in their first scene together and it just got progressively worse. Idk I need to think on it a little more, but I felt like there was so much unresolved at the end, even the whole Iron Man 'I'm Daredevil' line and Karen's face, ugh. I NEEDED 5 MORE MINUTES YOU GUYS.
Also, look, I don't hate Matt/Karen but I'm one of the ones who definitely dnw it at all this season. Frankly I'm relieved it didn't go anywhere, but I don't know how I feel that Matt ended up with Elektra and Stick as his Chosen Two instead of Karen and Foggy. The relationship that felt like it suffered the most was Matt/Foggy but otoh Foggy's finally getting out of Matt's shadow and gets the chance to go be his own guy and get all the acclaim and credit for cases and make the money he wanted and partner for another big time firm that we're all familiar with. I'd be happy for Foggy if I wasn't so positively sure he's going to hate every minute of it and be miserable and pining for Nelson & Murdock, and Matt specifically. That hurt my heart. This season is going to spawn all the Fix It fics.
Re: Quick post-s2 thoughts
Foggy just felt stuck in the gear between super crazy protective of Matt and super ultra disappointed with Matt, it's like he was angry all the time below the surface. It started in their first scene together and it just got progressively worse. Idk I need to think on it a little more, but I felt like there was so much unresolved at the end, even the whole Iron Man 'I'm Daredevil' line and Karen's face, ugh. I NEEDED 5 MORE MINUTES YOU GUYS.
Also, look, I don't hate Matt/Karen but I'm one of the ones who definitely dnw it at all this season. Frankly I'm relieved it didn't go anywhere, but I don't know how I feel that Matt ended up with Elektra and Stick as his Chosen Two instead of Karen and Foggy. The relationship that felt like it suffered the most was Matt/Foggy but otoh Foggy's finally getting out of Matt's shadow and gets the chance to go be his own guy and get all the acclaim and credit for cases and make the money he wanted and partner for another big time firm that we're all familiar with. I'd be happy for Foggy if I wasn't so positively sure he's going to hate every minute of it and be miserable and pining for Nelson & Murdock, and Matt specifically. That hurt my heart. This season is going to spawn all the Fix It fics.