So this came to me when I saw a gifset putting the scene in Cut Man where Matt tells the man he's torturing "I'm doing this because I enjoy it" right next to the scene in Nelson v Murdock where he tells Foggy "I don't want to stop", and it hit me that hey, wow, the first time I saw that scene in Cut Man i was just as convinced as Claire that he was bluffing to intimidate the guy, but the more i watched the series, the more i became convinced that he was telling the truth. Matt is a very precious but very, very fucked up cinnamon roll with serious anger issues and who very much enjoys hurting people that he judges to deserve it.
So basically, I want to see Foggy coming to this same conclusion.
Matt is very much capable of turning on the charm, and in the flashbacks he just seemed so happy that the sadism probably wasn't much of an issue, and even when his darker side showed up, he probably hid it completely from Foggy. The baby has serious abandonment issues, and when he gets mad he breaks things. He probably knows full well how terrifying that seems to someone else, and he's terrified that Foggy will get scared off by his considerable anger issues. So Foggy had no idea what kind of vicious satisfaction Matt gets from violence.
And like, Foggy sort of figured it out after the reveal, but I doubt he fully made the connection between his sweet, charming, occasionally awkward roommate/bestie and the fact that Daredevil straight up tortures people, and let's face it, Matt's whole body language screams "predator" when he's in the mask, all hunched shoulders and ready fists, the easy threats that are far from empty.
So how the fuck does Foggy deal with the fact that his best friend is straight-up sadistic, and not in the fun sexy way? Because I don't think it's a kink for Matt (yeah yeah i know this is a kinkmeme shut up). His desire for violence is directly connected to his anger and guilt and desire for justice, and i think that no matter how much he loves it (and perhaps hates loving it) he doesn't get off on it, or at least not like that (at least not for the sake of this prompt). Cause if it was a kink, Foggy could deal with that, easy. He's a pretty open-minded guy, he doesn't care what other people do in the bedroom as long as nobody gets hurt beyond what they're okay with.
But it's not. This isn't something that can end in orgasms and aftercare, which would be cool great happy-for-you-buddy. this is something that matt works out with punching bags, which is only a placeholder for what he really wants to do, which is putting on a mask and going out into the streets and punching people until they stop moving, and foggy does not know how the fuck to deal with that.
Gen or Matt/Foggy, Foggy witnesses Matt's (not-kinky) sadism
So basically, I want to see Foggy coming to this same conclusion.
Matt is very much capable of turning on the charm, and in the flashbacks he just seemed so happy that the sadism probably wasn't much of an issue, and even when his darker side showed up, he probably hid it completely from Foggy. The baby has serious abandonment issues, and when he gets mad he breaks things. He probably knows full well how terrifying that seems to someone else, and he's terrified that Foggy will get scared off by his considerable anger issues. So Foggy had no idea what kind of vicious satisfaction Matt gets from violence.
And like, Foggy sort of figured it out after the reveal, but I doubt he fully made the connection between his sweet, charming, occasionally awkward roommate/bestie and the fact that Daredevil straight up tortures people, and let's face it, Matt's whole body language screams "predator" when he's in the mask, all hunched shoulders and ready fists, the easy threats that are far from empty.
So how the fuck does Foggy deal with the fact that his best friend is straight-up sadistic, and not in the fun sexy way? Because I don't think it's a kink for Matt (yeah yeah i know this is a kinkmeme shut up). His desire for violence is directly connected to his anger and guilt and desire for justice, and i think that no matter how much he loves it (and perhaps hates loving it) he doesn't get off on it, or at least not like that (at least not for the sake of this prompt). Cause if it was a kink, Foggy could deal with that, easy. He's a pretty open-minded guy, he doesn't care what other people do in the bedroom as long as nobody gets hurt beyond what they're okay with.
But it's not. This isn't something that can end in orgasms and aftercare, which would be cool great happy-for-you-buddy. this is something that matt works out with punching bags, which is only a placeholder for what he really wants to do, which is putting on a mask and going out into the streets and punching people until they stop moving, and foggy does not know how the fuck to deal with that.